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The real reason why we struggle on offense.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelerGlenn, Nov 22, 2024.

  1. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    That's true, but I think they should use him even more.
     
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  2. SWSteel

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    Pat Meyer needs to go period, not the end be all of their problems, BUT giant step in the right direction

    His OL s sucked in Carolina n he's not helping this OL grow n improve

    But Tomlin likes ast coaches that are easy to control so....

    Need fresh qualified eyes to ID the issues and CORRECT them
     
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  3. JAD

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    Yea but in the last three games Muth got 2 targets and then 2 targets and last game 4 targets, that is not enough and by the why he caught all his targets and has the best hands on the team. We are just not focusing on getting him the ball enough. He was also wide open on a play that he could of scored on and Wilson didn't see him because he was locked in on another receiver.

    It's a shame he dosen't get more attention from the QB and play calls. All he does is almost always catches passes thrown to him. So throw more passes to him. THis is not rocket science.
     
  4. Steelresolve

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    I think part of the issue is Russ on these short yardage plays. I don’t think he can see very well due to his height on some of those plays. Those short yardage plays especially in the middle of the field are bang bang plays. Russ is holding onto the ball in those situations and honestly those sacks or turnovers on downs are on Russ not on the offensive line. Where we are really struggling is run blocking on the short yardage plays.
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    2 rookies starting. nuff said. they will get better. :cool:
     
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  6. CK 13

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    I'm still in the hope category that he isn't turning into a bust. A 1st round pick they traded up for. This would be a set back for sure.

    He is still young and still learning. I can see him moving to the left side in 2025. They are not going to give up on him.

    He is a UFA after the season. Some team will overpay.
     
  7. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Could would been three if Fautanu doesn't get injured.
     
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  8. CK 13

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    Really? I disagree. No one is open. He is looking for separation and not to throw the pick. Because we all know that Tomlin likes to play close to the vest.

    Smith needs to implement a short middle of the field passing attack. Quick hitters, Muth, Warren, Austin III, Williams ect, Back the safeties off.

    Why is Tomlin allergic to the middle of the field? It has followed offensive coordinator after offensive coordinator. Why?
     
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  9. Steelresolve

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    This guy disputes everything that your saying:

    https://x.com/ASaunders_PGH/status/...59992107282489832|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=

    Not to mention we threw over the middle of the field alot more when Fields was in. It is well know that throwing of the middle of the field is not Russ’s strong suite. He isn’t really a rhythm passer that is why he struggled under Payton in Denver, he was not a fit there for that offense. Russ is a gunslinger and excellent with the deep ball on the perimeter. Thats great but if you don’t connect on those or get the PI then you can find yourself behind the sticks. Alot of those plays are meant to be quick hitters where he is holding on to the ball. To me what’s more alarming is our inability to get an effective run game going especially in short yardage.
     
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  10. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    So your saying the O Line is the problem then.
     
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  11. ljkjr74

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    The Oline is in need of help and so is this whole. They can’t even decide who is going to be the QB next week. Playoffs is a joke.
     
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  12. S.T.D

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    This is true,,but then someone else will complain that Pickens is not getting enough targets, and then someone else will say why isn't Washington getting enough targets, why isn't Warren getting more carries, and so on. There is only one ball.
     
  13. S.T.D

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    Dude why do You keep saying that we threw more over the middle of the field when Fields was in there.....that is totally not true. We have thrown the ball in the middle of the field more , in less games than we have when he was the starter. There are graphs that show this.
     
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  14. Steelvision

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    im kinda hoping they replace Meyer with someone better. Taking too long for our young guys to develop on the line. Jones shouldve been better by now in his second year. Moore is still struggling. And the line got taken to school by the browns.
     
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  15. jeh1856

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    Two dogs one bone
     
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  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Two rookies have been playing fairly well when not expected to play at all

    Moore keeps getting better

    Wrong on two strikes

    The line played poorly against the Browns

    A single hit
     
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  17. Steelvision

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    thats not really Russ’s fault. He cant do much about that. Thats where Arthur Smith has to design something that will play to his strengths. Stepping up into the pocket may not be one of them.
     
  18. Steelvision

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    are you talking about McCormack? Ok i’ll give you that. But i remember Moore struggling in this last game. Lets see what happens next week. Id like to see Najee help out blocking more on passing downs
     
  19. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    McCormick and Frazier

    Did you forget Frazier

    If you are being myopic yes Moore had a bad game but in general he has steadily improved
     
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  20. CK 13

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    I do feel he has played his best this year in which is just above the line. It is a contract year.

    What I don't understand is he was getting his @ss handed to him by Garrett and they ignored it instead of getting him some help over there. Put Washington over there! Something! Anything! Failure by Smith.
     
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  21. Busman

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    Brownies were playing in the same weather though. Unless Browns had an advantage because it was Home snow lol
     
  22. Steelresolve

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    I say that because I saw a passing chart comparing Fields vs. Wilson.
     
  23. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Yeah… it was a bad time for Tomlin to go wild that’s for sure lol
     
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  24. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Then You either should know that's not true, or someone is not showing You a true passing chart.
     
  25. KMM

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    To call quick hitters across the middle, i.e. slants and such, you need receivers who fight to get off the line and can do it consistently. I'm not sure we have that.
     
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