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worried about our run defense

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by francobettis, Oct 29, 2024.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's not going to happen.
     
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  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Good luck with that
     
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  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  4. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I’m not sure how you are leaving Heyward out of that conversation. If he’s not actually making the play he is eating up blockers so that the ILB’s should be able to do their job.
     
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  5. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    Maybe when he's old and washed up, lol.
     
  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    this is the position i wouldn't mind them trying to add to. :cool:
     
  7. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    THAT is scheme

    soft zone Tomlin bull crap

    remains a problem - predictable, whole league knows it. need more mixing of man to man, press coverage - DARE I SAY 6 man blitzes on occasion?
    BlitsBurgh died 10 years ago.....
     
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  8. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    another problem is Queen- but we did not bring him in to be a run stuffer. Roberts is good up the gut, and Wilson is too.

    Queen was brought in for speed, but his best attribute in RatLand was blitzing. MikeyT and Khan need to think this thru better.
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    One of the big reason why the steelers have been so bad on defense when player like Shazier was out and now Watt...This defense rely too much on talent
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. Stroud is a very good Qb. It happens.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    If you want to play the what if game the Steelers lost to the Colts and Cowboys without their starting QB Wilson :shrug:.
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    The NFL has always been about when You play a team. No???
    For instance. The Broncos got very lucky when they played us in the playoffs right after we lost Ab, and Bell. We could do this to everyone...., or am I looking at it in a too simplistic light???
     
  13. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    This is how I see it also. If we play if, and buts. Hell we could also say...if Richardson doesn't get hurt in that game....we beat the Colts anyways. That's why We can't play ifs, and buts.
     
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  14. SGSteeler

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    I mean, true... but our back up was the 15th rated passer in the NFL. He didn't perform like a back up QB. He played like a quality starter (and played quite well in the loss to the Colts). You could say the defense is directly responsible for both losses by the same tune. Neither are really true in the spirit of things.

    The defense kinda just got owned against the Colts. We gave up too many points and yards, allowed TD's in the red zone and not FG's, and didn't cause any turnovers. That one was on the defense. The offense didn't do the defense any favors in the Cowboys game for sure, but giving up 445 yards of offense and losing the game with by allowing the game winning TD with 20 seconds left isn't what you want for a unit that is as good as ours. But there is blame to go around in that one.

    We're sitting in a good spot at the bye, but there are a lot of games ahead of us and a good number of them are going to be tough ones. Both sides of the ball will have to be ready to go.
     
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  15. OB1

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    i agree with this 100%.

    to understand the argument requires people to connect two dots together but the opposers aren’t capable of that level of complex arguments.
     
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  16. jeh1856

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    Do you want to get cute and give up more points

    Because what they are doing right now is not giving up a lot of points
     
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  17. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Dak threw 2 interceptions against the Steelers, but Fields and the offense didn't do enough on offense especially with the Cowboys missing Parsons and Lawrence. I think Russell would've put up more points against that depleted Dallas defense.
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    This. Not only 2 ints, but 2 fumbles caused. One they got, and one they didn't...., and we only scored 17 freaking points. When Your Defense forces 3 turnovers. Your offense must muster more than 17 points.
     
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  19. SGSteeler

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    I think both sides didn't do enough. That is why there was blame all around...

    This team spent its money on defense. It is built to win games with the lead and the defense on the field to seal the game. We had that scenario and didn't get it done against the Cowboys. If we want to win playoff games, the defense HAS to win that drive (and do so against a much better team than Dallas).
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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    The Steelers won the turnover battle 3-0 IIRC, you need more than 17 points from your offense. They're averaging 26 points in the two games Wilson has started.
     
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  21. Steelersfan43

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    Both side of the ball was awful vs Dallas...The only reason the game was close was because the 2 turnovers in the red zone by Prescott and the cowboys have a awful year in the red zone..I have no doubt if the steelers would play against Dallas a another time,the steelers would win by 10 points at least.They are a better team that Dallas but not on that night
     
  22. jeh1856

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    Question

    I keep reading that Cam is having a good year

    Isn’t he a part of the long runs up the middle
     
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  23. SGSteeler

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    Hence, why I said there is blame to go all around? The defense isn't blameless. We have the top paid defense and the second least paid offense, so I have a higher expectation of the defense. If you're okay with losing the game on the last drive, that is fine... but I am not (nor should any fan be). We really doubled down on having the best defense in the offseason. We had the highest paid defense in 2023 and then went out and made a splash signing with Queen and then traded our WR2 for a corner. We specifically built our team to win games like that.

    It is okay for BOTH "the offense needs to score more points" and "the defense can't lose the game on the last drive" to be true. It is in this case.
     
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  24. Formerscribe

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    Yards matter because valid analysis takes all relevant information into account. That helps account for the role luck can play in points. If the opposing team gets the ball in your territory six times due to turnovers and special teams play and your team gives up 20 points isn't that better if the opponent has to drive the length of the field all day and your team gives up 13. Yards will help show the difference.
     
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  25. Formerscribe

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    Queen's best attribute was versatility, his ability to do all things required of an inside linebacker well. He simply isn't playing at that level.
     

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