Studs and Duds first half of season

Thats my opinion and i’m sticking to it. You have to put it in context.

They are number two in scoring defense. Of course that is the most important stat, but who have they played? If they are still number two a month from now then I will change my tune.

With the talent they have they can be so much better. I just get tired of the nail biting and relying on a turnover at the end of a game to close it out. We were relying on turnovers against Indy and Dallas and they never came.

I would like to see us force alot more three and outs and not run so many darn four man rushes with a two high soft shell zone defense. Its painful to watch teams continually march down the field on us.

 

Nah the laying out of DJ will strictly be left up to Minkah. I don’t think Minkah cares much for DJ.

 

You are more positive than I am here. I understand what you are saying. I guess I need to see them over the next month against some of these better offenses before I am fully on board. Their style of play does seem to play well against Lamar and the Ravens though. However that style doesn’t always play out well against some of the more accurate Qb’s who are less inclined to make mistakes.

 

I agree with you but that doesn’t mean that Jackson doesn’t have his weaknesses.

 

This is exactly what I am saying. My expectation is sky high for this defense. That is actually a compliment to the talent we have assembled. I personally believe we could be significantly more dominant on defense. I find it very painful to watch these teams continually march down the field on us over and over again. How many punts did we force in this last game? I think it was two maybe three. I believe Tomlin is ok with the other team driving down the field and taking time off the clock. It isn’t his preference but if we force a turnover at the end of the drive or at least only give up a field goal its accomplishing two things. It is shortening the game because of the time run off and it is keeping the game close which is exactly the style of football we seem to like. It feels like the last four years the majority of our games have been like this. From a percentage standpoint it works in favor typically but it does not work against the better teams who turn those field goals into touchdowns and do not lose the turn over battle to us.

When we got Queen and drafted Peyton Wilson I was really excited to see what we would do with that speed in the middle of the field. I thought for sure we would be alot more aggressive, but we seem to be playing the same style of defense. I feel like the ILB’s and Minkahs and JPJ’s talents are being wasted in this defense with the style of defense we are playing. Not to mention I have always been a fan of getting bigger DT’s in their to occupy multiple offensive lineman and allow the ILB’s to flow freely to the ball. Were getting no push up the middle and we are allowing our ILB’s to get blocked. I can’t wait to will replace Ogunjobi. Finally please will someone tell Benton to put the weight back on he lost so he can stop getting pushed back. The lost weight may have made him quicker but I don’t see how it has benefitted his play or this defense.

 

The defense is highly overrated and won't hold up against the better teams in the AFC..... Stroud/Texans, Mahomes/Chiefs and Allen/Bills.

Our offense is better, but it's still not consistent enough to keep up with the AFC big dogs..... whether it's penalties on Jones, bad play calls or refs screwing us over.

 

We have a GREAT roster of players. We have high level players at every level. I don't expect to hold every team to 200 yards of offense and 6 points every game, but they have a chance to be overwhelming like they were the first few weeks of the season (especially against bad offenses like we've been playing against). We've given up too many big plays, we've allowed too many sustained drives, and have gotten lucky with calls that have kept points off the board (happened in Las Vegas and against the NYG). We've been solely reliant on the big play, and if we don't get that turnover... we just look like any other NFL defense. Again, I think the numbers tell a tale of a dominant defense, but the eyes see one that has been a bit underwhelming given the expectations.

Of course it doesn't mean that the defense wont get back to what it was doing the first 3 weeks, but we need to see that, since it seems like teams have figured out how to exploit us a bit. Lots of quick passes, screen plays, and the occasional shot downfield has been working. Our last 9 games see us play 7 games against top 11 offenses (only the Browns have a bad offense left on the schedule), and the first 8 saw us play 7 bottom 12 offenses. We're facing a different caliber of offensive unit to end the year and the defense HAS to be up for it. Our ability to make it to and win in the playoffs is going to depend on it.

 

he’s making too much money to be in a Prevent mode. Troy played all over the field and was an impact player, Minkah’s making Troy money but no where near the impact or splash plays.

 

https://triblive.com/sports/tim-ben...dering about the defense?: Yeah. A little bit.

"Over the past five games, the Steelers are yielding 359 yards per game. That tracks at a pace that would put them 24th in the NFL. Their net passing yards allowed of 257 yards per game. That would be 29th in the NFL. They’ve had 10 sacks over the last five games after getting nine in the first three.

Those are weak numbers. Fifteen takeaways on the season is great deodorant for that. But turnovers can be fickle."

Hopefully the turn overs on D continue... if they don't, the D is in trouble.

It's funny how the same people who say "don't look at the yards" for defending the defense, kept saying "don't look at the points, but look at the yards" for the offense....

 

@STD

 

They are using Him to prevent the quick score My friend. Not everything on D is based on ints, and for the most part it has worked.

 

I think the level of Defensive talent is over stated. Outside of 4 guys, and one of them is a old man....the others are OK. They are nothing special. That is why they are playing the scheme they are playing.

 

This is exactly what they are doing. Not every single play, but in most.

 

1st. I've stated in many threads it's not the yards, but the points that matter on both sides.....so that part of Your argument is pure lying. Can You make a argument with making up stuff, or without what it's.
If You are mentioning passing yards that I said we needed more of before.....it doesn't take a genius to know that it's easier to defend a team that is one dimensional, and it shouldn't take a genius to see how the passing has opened up our whole offense. Maybe it just takes eyes.

Up above for You also.

 

Impossible for a team to have like 11 pro bowler or 11 special players on defense....And how many team in the league have 4 special players in their defense like the steelers?

Outside of turnovers and red zone defense,the steelers defense have been in the bottom 10 in the last 5 games and this is despite the opposing offense were very weak each week

 

I want to understand your logic here:

1. You say it's good for offense to get more passing yards, because it helps open up the whole offense, right?
2. you say it doesn't matter how many yards the D gives up... why not?

 

Troy P played most of His career with better players. That were together longer. A lot of guys we are playing didn't start here last year.

 

Holy crap. Are You new to football that I have to waste my time to explain it??? Use that Grey matter between your ears, and think about that question for a bit, or do You need me to hold Your hand, and walk You through it. GEEZZZZ. The last 2 games on offense should help give You a clue. LoL
I can't believe You asked that

 

Let me dumb it down for you: if the offense benefits from more passing yards (which clearly they do), why doesn't the defense hurt from giving up so many yards?

explain the second part. try to think how two points connect together to form a more complex argument.

 

I hear you STD, he is covering the over the top pass but I’ve seen on many replays where he has guessed or cheated on a play and it’s wrong and resulted in a big play. Maybe I’m spoiled by past safety play, I just expect more from him.

 

He is covering for a suspicious passing D.

 

Exactly You just want to argue, or You simply can't grasp the difference.
Again for those that can't remember from one post to another. I never said yards are more important than points on Offense (I challenge anyone to find where I said it outside of them making it up).....Have we not been scoring more points, and against better Defense that we have played outside of one???
How does on Defense giving up yards, but not points have to be questioned??? LoL

 

LoL. Outside of....outside of....can anyone on this subject make a case, without saying....if ....maybe, what if, and some other made up stuff. You can't say outside of.....because it's not outside of.....it actually happened. Otherwise You could do this to everything. Outside of only 10 passes being complete out of 32 ...Anthony Richardson is a good Qb.....see......

 

maybe if

 

Stats can fool you....If the steelers don't improve their play that what they have done in the last 5 week against weak offense,it will be ugly against better offense....I can't be sold on this defense when they have been so awful come playoffs time in the last 5 playoffs games