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Should Tua just retire?

Discussion in 'General NFL Talk' started by Arch Stanton, Sep 13, 2024.

  1. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    This is Tua's 3rd career concussion, the guys head seems to be made of glass. Pretty dumb leading in with his head, so he pretty much caused that one on himself, but you have to be really concerned about his long-term health at this point
     
  2. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Third official, the injury they stated as 'back' and put him back into games is what started the entire investigation, and made independent Dr's to evaluate on the sidelines. I posted this in the game thread, but really only he can decide (if he is cleared). At 25 he should have a long life ahead, if he continues playing the quality and length of his life may have severe ramifications. It's not like he just get 'dinged', his body reactions are alarming. The league and team really have few options if he is cleared, just hope he sees past the contract, glory, and even love of the game, needs to see the next 40 plus years and understand there is much more than football.
     
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  3. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    I think it's a tragedy in the making if he keeps playing, but I guess it's up to Tua and the team physician to determine if he can (or should) continue playing football. Personally, I'd retire. The guy is already set for life financially, so why risk your health and possibly your life over a game?
     
  4. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    They risk their health and life for doing something they love to do and something that is all they have done most of their lives.
    Its very unfortunate . The guy really needs to consider retiring. Also, the damage may already have been done, which later on in life it will present itself.
     
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  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Too much money to retire....
     
  6. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    Too much life to not retire....
     
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  7. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    He has earned 75 million dollars to this point. I still see Mike Webster at the end of his life. No amount of money is worth that
     
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  8. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I've had several concussions in my life...a few that were severe. If I was a young quarterback playing for a chance at a legacy and generational wealth, there's no way I'd retire unless I couldn't play anymore or no one would sign me.
     
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  9. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    So having CTE would mean nothing to you? Did you see what happened to Mike Webster?? I guess it speaks to priorities and what you value. Sad though
     
  10. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    The point was made that that collision was between the 2 most fragile guys in the NFL.


    It was only a joke.
     
  11. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Commenting on my values is a bit much. Hundreds of players cheated concussion tests so they wouldn't be sidelined by their concussion symptoms. Peyton Manning admitted to doing poorly on the baseline tests so he wouldn't fail when he had a concussion. I guess being a top competitor is sad. These kids won the lottery and very few of them walk away voluntarily.
     
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  12. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I believe so. Money isn't everything.
     
  13. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    And Junior Seau
     
  14. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    I was speaking on the decision you said you would make in the same situation as Tua. You said you would trade the destruction of your brain for the chance at wealth. That is the only value I am talking about. I am hoping he makes the right decision
     
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  15. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Concussions are bad. Multiple concussions are worse. Football players get multiple concussions. How much is too much? That is an individual thing and can't exactly be measured. Drs can give an estimated recovery from surgery time because that is physical. Concussions are not just physical but also neurological, so no way to estimate a recovery time. It's really up to the players to be honest about how they are doing. Also, the more honest people are about their concussions, the more actual information we glean about concussions, the better we can treat concussions. When players cheat the system, they are possibly doing harm for a future concussion patient.
     
  16. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    I've never been an elite athlete making that kind of dough so it's hard to put myself in his shoes. That said, I've had decent jobs and been able to support my family, buy all the things we needed and most of what we wanted, put kids through college, walk my daughter down the aisle, see them become adults and contributing members of society, so on and so forth. We all make our decisions based on what is important to us individually. Tua has a tough decision and will likely be criticized either way. I hope the young man does what's best for him and is able to enjoy the life he wants.
     
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  17. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    Chris Borland retired in his prime out of concern related to concussions and brain injury. As far as has been reported, he had no prior issues with concussions. Every player has to make their own decisions for what's best for them.
     
  18. doubleyoi

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    AB is a savage

     
  19. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    That is perfect!
     
  20. S.T.D

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    Many people don't seem to understand this. If You played sports in school. You have probably had a concussion. If You have had a good motorcycle, or automobile wreck . You probably have had a concussion. If You have ever fought, and been knocked down You have probably had a concussion. Back in the day it would've been virtually impossible to live life as a young man , and not get concussions. We just didn't look at it that way.
     
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  21. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    How would you look at it?
     
  22. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I would look at it that I've know many many people to get concussions for free....so it would be up to the individual to decide whether they wanted to risk it for millions.
     
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  23. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    I know health care has come a long way in treatment and diagnosis, but the issue here is it's not just the individual. Those guys with millions at stake may indeed decide the risk is worth it, but how many never get that security? Some of those (or likely most ) would still choose to play, but in the end they are finding the cost is more than they bargained for. Some of the payouts from the previous lawsuit about CTE are a joke, the hoops they have to go through to get it, the amount they actually receive does not cover a year of basic living expenses. Even with this players will grab their knee and teams will still try and hide obvious head injuries to keep the player in, or at least prevent the screenings. If the true damage was actually known football as we know it from youth on up would likely be banned or such limitations that it would become flag football. I know that's extreme, but like tobacco, the things that were suspected and even known were hidden to promote the dollars it brought in. If and or when the effects of these injuries are truly known and revealed, will the public be satisfied to spend their hard earned bucks to watch people destroy their future, probably, because we know what tobacco does and despite all the limitations and laws it is still readily available lol.

    Lavarr Arrington was speaking the other morning about the millions these guys get, in truth few get the lifetime security contract, most playing on minimum. after taxes and living a 'normal' life make enough to get through the year, perhaps save some, but its not what many think. if they are good enough to make the pension then they at least have something later in life, I guess my point is yes they have to choose, but there comes a point where the consequences are so grim and hazardous the decision has to be made for them, for their good and the good of the sport.
     
  24. S.T.D

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    We will have to disagree (I think this us a first for me on something You said). I have never liked the idea of anyone deciding what's best for someone else.
     
  25. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    It's always up to the individual. Until the NFL says you've had to many concussions soypu can no longer play. So in your opinion do you think he should retire? We know how this ends eventually
     
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