George Pickens played limited snaps due to discipline?

Huh?

 

*RAISES HAND!!! ME ME!! That's about me.

 

I agree. Tomlin must really hate Mason for some reason to let him go for two washed-up retreads:

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-pickens-86-yard-td-catch

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-johnson-s-71-yard-td-catch

 

Rudolph did string together a handful of games to get us into the playoffs, but that doesn’t change the fact that he is a backup QB in this league.

 

This morning there is talk of trading Pickens before the deadline.

There are a couple things I note about this.
1. You can't keep drafting 'troubled picks' depending on them, they fail, you trade.... terrible cycle. This is how many now?
2. To trade for a WR such as Adams, you need to have something showing on the field to lure them. Our QB's are not good, though far better than anything the Raiders have but overall, the Steelers are not just an "Adams short of a Super Bowl."
3. I think the front office is lethargic, maybe they've met the quota of moves for the year.

Maybe it would be best to have a plan, like finish the season as is - get as high as a pick as you can.
In the meantime, move on from Omar and take a look at moving Andy Weidl into that position.
Make a decision on Tomlin.
Maybe make a few trades for Pickens, maybe even TJ (I vomit on that thought.) or others, get some picks.
Draft a serious QB, even if you have to package some picks to move up.
Get a serious youth movement in the works on the team. Get the "Grandparents House" smell out of the building.

 

Perhaps, but backup QBs have won SBs. I feel like we currently have 3 backup QBs on our team that aren't as good. I hope I'm wrong and Wilson has something left in the tank, but we can't tell yet.

 

I remember that, one of my former colleagues mentioned it but didn't go into details.
He basically alluded to Pickens just not liking it here and doesn't feel like this is a good team.
Still, in my opinion, the Steelers are understaffed and lack creative/active coaching. I wasn't impressed much watching Azzanni's efforts during the summer.
It's like the staff is stale.

And, it is quite frustrating the Front Office has allowed the player personnel to get into this kind of shape.
So, you trade Pickens, your best WR by far on this team.. what now? It's a sad state of affairs.
I think if I am Rooney, I am holding Omar's feet to the fire for now.. "Dude, you gotta do something"

I have nothing against Azzani, he's just one of a couple unspectacular coaches and every team has 1 or 2. They can't do anything about it and Tomlin does have a say in this so he's also responsible.

 

@steelersrule6 version was funnier

 

There is an art in blending together players to form a bond as a team. Obviously, Omar doesn't have it, KC does.
Pickens doesn't fit into a KC locker room.
Maybe the Raiders.

 

JUST KEEP THROWING GEORGE PICKENS THE DAMN BALL!!!!

 

No issue, I disagree too.
"There is an art in blending together players to form a bond as a team. Obviously, Omar doesn't have it, KC does.
Pickens doesn't fit into a KC locker room."

At this point, I am not seeing the Authur Smith offense I know. I liked bringing him in, that part I can agree on.
Does he have the right people?
Is he being 'handcuffed?'
Is he being more like Aurthur Smith the Head Coach (something he wasn't so good at.)
Is the offense not buying into this system?

Adams would be a huge lift to this team. He is nothing short of awesome.
But I'm not sure we have the kind of promise where he thinks he can get the ring(s).... He may be looking at KC.

 

They aren't moving on from Khan after two seasons as GM. I don't think any team should move on from a GM that quickly. That is the kind of knee-jerk mistake bad organizations make. It isn't what the Steelers do.

I don't love everything Khan has done, but in no way has he been bad enough to warrant being fired.

 

And people need to stop making excuses for Tomlin as well.

Pickens is a head case, that's not gonna change, and Tomlin is stuck in the past and is incapable of adapting to today's NFL, and he's holding the team back and has been for years - that's not changing either.

 

I'm just not feeling that.
But I have to temper that with he was tutored under one of the trusted GM's ever. (So that side of me agrees 101% with you)
But yeah, there are some bad decisions there that would get a GM fired in some organizations.

 

Good points.
Tomlin is my guy, but as I've said a few times, coaching seems stale across the board here.

 

Smith's offense is a very disciplined type offense. Each player has a job that they MUST do. He will run different plays from y the same personnel and formation. This is why it is so important that everyone stays on script so as not to show 'tells' pre-snap. This is why he brought in a few of his old players on offense. OL injuries and youth have stunted this progression.

I have noticed Muth, Heyward, and Washington being used more and more in the passing game, each week. This is an Arthur Smith signature. Justin Fields has looked better in this offense than he ever did in Chicago.

Are there training wheels? Perhaps. I don't think that is as much Tomlin though as it is the players themselves. Different players learn at a different pace and by different methods. Example, why is it taking Roman Wilson so long to learn the offense?

It has been very frustrating to watch this offense at times this season. Have to keep in mind all of the new parts involved. It's going to be a frustrating season to the end I think. And I don't know if it will ever work to design. For now, I do think we have to allow the learning curve and try to be patient. I don't personally WANT to be patient. I want to win now.

 

Looks like a cross between Antonio Brown and Plaxico Burris just what we need

 

The Qb’s aren’t the problem. Omar isn’t the problem. The problem is the culture and Tomlin. He is bad schematically. He hamstrings his Coordinators. He is way too conservative on offense and defense. He plays not to turn the ball over or turn the ball over on defense instead of laying to win. Name a single defense in this league with this much pedigree that is underperforming like this? How many high pedigree Wr’s are you going to let walk all over the team and become bigger than team only to have to trade the malcontent elsewhere? How many offensive line man are we going to bring in through the draft and free agency before realize we need a new line coach? Its the same problems every year. Tomlin is running out of excuses. You can only offer up the same excuses different ways so many times. It is getting old.

 

Well.... QB's are the problem... along with the other things you've mentioned and missed in conversations.
The other thing you aren't connecting is "Tomlin" - So all the things you say are valid points..
But who's in charge of Tomlin? That's your GM.

At some point, Omar has to sit Tomlin down and ask "WTF?" and either fire him and get on the same page.

Then there's this high-priced defense you mention. Is Omar spending money on 3-4 players and just skimping with ne'er do wells everywhere else? That's what it sort of looks like on the analysis.

So I don't know. I kinda agree but then the root cause makes me disagree?

 

Tomlin let Mason keep the starting job after Pickett was healthy, even starting the playoff game .