Bad snaps

Brilliant idea

 

Exactly what does that mean

 

On the replay I watched, I didn't see the guard tap Frazier. In fact, he was still looking back at Fields. Yes, Fields needs to be ready. He said as much. That doesn't mean that Frazier didn't mess up, too.

 

Based on what Frazier said, sometimes they have it set up so Frazier is supposed to snap the ball when he gets a tap from the left guard. He said that happened, though I didn't see it on the replay.

 

Why would the left guard decide when to snap

 

Each NFL Team has a cadence set for the Center to hike the ball. If you ever notice centers doing a quick head nod?! That is one of them.


There are different types of course. One of the more efficient ways is having one of the Guards tap the Centers to notify them to hike it. That said, even some of the most seasoned of Offensive Lines can have issues with the snap count. A big factor?! Crowd noise.


Silent Counts are best used in unison with the Cadence between the Guard and Center. Thing is, if done incorrectly?!... well.....

 

That it's a repeated problem, is a coaching failure. Old news.

 

Frazier is going to be a good player for us. Growing pains.

 

I agree. But these people turn on these players so quick.

 

Been that way for decades. People these days would have turned on Rocky Bleier for getting half his foot blown off. Probably cruel of me for saying but humans lately are really short sighted.

 

It was a weird game to say the least

 

Sometimes you'll notice one of the guards (Mason McCormick today) turn around to look at the QB and then tap the center or do a hand motion telling the center to snap it. If a stadium is loud and you can't hear the clap or the cadence they do this.

 

Frazier will be a stud.

 

C'mon guys admit it, we've all been there. If one of those things in your avatar tapped me on the thigh I'd probably "snap" too soon too.

 

No NFL team really practices during the season, it’s mostly game planning. These are professionals. You better know the fundamentals. They need to take some personal and professional responsibility and work on their craft.

 

Execution falls on the players.

 

Who's job is it to get them prepared?!

 

tell that to Bill Walsh. Hahahaha

seems like you would be a great fit in a Tomlin coached team thinking practice is over rated. Hahahahah

 

My extensive "film" study of Steeler games while drinking during games, , has an answer:

1. The QB does a leg raise/kick thing as a signal to one of the guards
2. The guard then taps the C
3. The C then snaps after a "count"

If between 1 and 2, the C or G change blocking, the process starts again.

You can see here that the G (#66) is looking at C/QB and clearly not expecting the snap and then taps the C after the snap as a "oh crap" reaction.

https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1840485138138120544

 

In fact looking at that replay: https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1840485138138120544

It's clearly illegal procedure as the G is not set, and should have been a pre-snap penalty.

 

You already had me here

 

This...he is a rookie making line calls, McCormick is a rookie making his first start, Fields has a history of fumbling and it happens a lot on the line. No excuse is necessarily a good excuse, but in a rush O especially things can go wrong. Hell I was on a YT stream and several in the chat were crying bench him, someone even said cut him, lmao. What Zach has done has been damn impressive, does this need work, certainly, but let's get real. Half or more of the line is injured, we are starting 2 rooks, a 2nd year guy and shuffling in another 2nd year guy. Let's quit getting hyper and give time to work this stuff out.

 

My thoughts exactly but i can remember countless times watching games where this was a bungled snap and you would see Peyton and his center on the sideline practicing it, Tom Brady, elway, etc, etc. Dating back to even Pouncey and Ben with their problems at times we never see our guys on the sidelines readily practicing it. It's the little things at times that separate winning and losing. if their ego's are too much to take ground ball practice so to speak the coach needs to insist on it. Like high school you drop the ball you carry it every day during the week where ever you go. My brother left his Y pass (this is the back in the 60's) on the table, my Dad came home picked up ripped in half and my brother couldn't go to the Y the rest of the summer. He told me this story and he said he never ever forgot to put something away again the rest of his life. He's 72 now and his **** is squared away like a museum. Hold these dudes really accountable via team fines if you need to and it will get fixed.

 

1. I never said practice was overrated.

2. I thought we were talking about 2024....not 35+ years ago.

 

That's not what you said.

The process is very simple:

1. Prepare the game plan - Coaches
2. Learn the game plan - Players
3. Call the plays - Coaches
4. Execute the plays - Players

There were some bad play calls in that game, for sure. That's on the coaches.

There were just as many plays where guys were in the right position to make the play and did not. That's on the players.