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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Sep 29, 2024.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm getting tired of this crap it seems to happen at least once every game, it's been happening between Frazier and Fields since the preseason. They need to spend some extra time at practice to work on this.
     
  2. AskQuestionsLater

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    Same.


    Haven't given up on Frazier though. Part of growing pains as a Rookie; an Offensive Lineman that is a Rookie doubly so and no less. More practice does need to happen between the two though.


    That said, I also wonder how much the lack of continuity between Frazier, Justin Fields and the continual shuffling of the Offensive Line has affected the timing of each snap. Weird question but fair one to ask.
     
  3. Tiggs99

    Tiggs99 Well-Known Member

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    But he got the tap...
     
  4. OB1

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    I've been saying for years... Steelers do not seem to practice the fundamentals much. It's frustrating as hell.
     
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  5. AskQuestionsLater

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  6. SteelerGlenn

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    Frazier a candidate for this weeks whipping boy.
     
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  7. Brice

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    Is that a backhanded way of saying Frazier snapped the ball on the wrong count? " I have to be ready no matter".. when the ball is snapped.
     
  8. OB1

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    On the plus side, the snap was pretty accurate. Nailed the face mask dead on.
     
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  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    No.


    Accountability as I see it.
     
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  10. SteelersFanCanada

    SteelersFanCanada Well-Known Member

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    If you watch the play, McCormick looks back at Fields, sees that Fields is looking away, but Frazier snaps the ball. McCormick is still looking at Fields when the ball is snapped lol
     
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  11. Born2Steel

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    In this case there should have been a formation penalty since McCormick was not set. There are many things from this game that do not make sense. This week of analyzing it all from my couch microscope should shed some light on things though.
     
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  12. Lizard72

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    That's what I thought too. Like Frazier shouldn't have snapped until McCormick had reset at the very least. I had always thought there was a tap then the second tap and the half beat for the Guard to set before the snap. If they're snapping on 1 tap and he's not waiting for the line to be set, that's just a recipe for disaster.
     
  13. AskQuestionsLater

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    I mean...


    We all can agree this has been a problem dating back since the Preseason. That is now the third time this has happened. That befalls on a number of factors but the most simple answer is execution.


    Guess which part of execution also falls on?! Coaching.
     
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  14. SteelersFanCanada

    SteelersFanCanada Well-Known Member

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    from what I saw, the second tap came after the ball was snapped. it was a mess.

    starting rookies at RG, C, and LG was a lot to ask. Hopefully we get Seumalo and Daniels back next week. I think the veterans will help settle down Frazier in those moments.
     
  15. SteelersFanCanada

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    the game was full of mistakes and bad plays. I think they need to take training wheels off and let Fields throw more.

    Our defence can win us some games but leaning on them to win most games isnt sustainable.
     
  16. SGSteeler

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    No, I think he's trying to take responsibility for a play that wasn't really his fault. That is at least a "leader's" approach to it... As for the tap, maybe having both back up G's in the game was part of it? Because McCormick definitely is still looking at Fields when it is snapped. Why would Anderson be the one tapping here? It just seems a lot of issues there that led to it. I think Frazier has been marvelous for us this year. His issues with a few procedural things leading to early snaps are just part of being a rookie maybe? I don't think its a cause for concern just yet.

    The under center stuff from week 1 is probably on Fields, cant be sure 100%... but I can't really find a way to not see this one as the Center's fault. It is what it is.
     
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  17. ljkjr74

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    Ok, maybe or maybe not that one snap in today’s game gave us the lose. The game I was watching we were in trouble from the start and continued throughout the game. In the end we got what we deserved so let’s move on to the next opponent.
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    I don't know how that wasn't called a false start. I also don't know how the officials missed the facemask when they tackled Fields, a call that would have bailed them out of that huge mistake.
     
  19. strummerfan

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    Good lord man. Fields raises his leg to indicate that he’s ready. The left guard then taps the center informing him it’s time to snap the ball. The center does what he’s supposed to do and snaps the ball.
     
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  20. strummerfan

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    Actually fields admits to it being his fault. He indicated he was ready, the next two did their part, and fields took his eyes off the ball
     
  21. S.T.D

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    Of course this would be changed throughout the game, or the D would know exactly when to fire off the ball. Silent count usually had 3 different changes throughout the game. That the Qb will say which one in the huddle. All it takes is for the Qb, and the center not to be on tge same page on which it is, and bad things
     
  22. steelcurtainmrp

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    it was not on Frazier or Fields. McCormick gave him the tap.
     
  23. SGSteeler

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    Yeah, the QB is always going to take the blame afterwards. At least they should... But I rewatched the play and I don't see a tap from the RG, it had to come from the LG McCormick. And McCormick was looking at Fields when the ball was snapped so idk why he would have tapped, though it is possible. That is the weird part of all of it. It just seemed procedurally off. Yes, Fields looked away for a second, but the G who was tapping was literally looking at the QB... so maybe it is on McCormick? If the tapper is looking at the QB, there should be 0 chance the ball gets snapped. It is hard to explain.

    I just don't know how this falls on the QB unless he looks away after the LG taps and looks forward. That didn't happen. We literally have a failsafe in for a quiet count and it still got screwed up. I get it is easy to point blame because someone is taking the fall for it, but no.
     
  24. S.T.D

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    It could be the center, or the Qb. They don't have the exact same signal for the time of the snap in the silent count. Otherwise the D would know it from the beginning of the game. So they change it throughout the game. The Qb usually relays what it will be on in the huddle. So all it takes is one guy not to hear it correctly, or one of them not to remember what it was.
     
  25. Lizard72

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    The fumbled snap was low and on this left hip as well. He had to look down to secure it and by then he had 2 guys coming at him. I get why he tried to run out of it, just should have held onto the ball better because he was eating that sack either way.
     

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