You don't get starting QBs after round 1 / Grooming Ben's replacement

If we had a guy like Kirk Cousins as a young guy to groom I would feel pretty good. I think he will be a starter capable down the road.

 

of course special qbs get drafted in 1st. that is why they are special. but to say u cant get a franchise qb in any other round is not true. drew brees was a second rounder i think. i didnt look it up just trying to go off memory. montana was a 3rd. for u to say there is not going to be another brady situation is unfair. you dont know. the right situation can come along and a 4th rounder like rich gannon can lead a team to super bowl and win league mvp. or someone like matt hasselbeck who i think is a 6th or 7th pick can be a franchise qb. farve was also a second rd pick so it can work out

 

I done some quick checking. since 1991 there have been 14 winning super bowl qbs. i didnt include steve young because he went to the usfl. i think there have been 8 drafted in round 1 and 6 in any other round.

 

Alright, well, I've made my case... Agree to disagree.

I say we draft a young backup in round 5 this year, and we wait until we think Ben is a year away from retirement and grab one in round 1.

 

i am not saying that i dont want to get a stud in the 1st to replace ben but that may not be a possibility. lets say when we need a qb we draft 21st or so. do we reach on a qb just to get one? this year is a good year to maybe grab a guy who can develop. like renfree from duke or maybe a jordan rodgers. i think we can get a qb who can be a starter in the later rounds. sure in a perfect world we would get a sure fire kid in the first like we got ben.

 

Yup.

People can keep point out the exceptions, and maybe we get lucky, but you can't count on it.

 

5 of the last 6 superbowl winning QB's have been first round picks. I'm saying the transition to a passing league is making it even more relevant.

Brees is the only QB of the last 6 not taken in round 1. The rest are Flacco, Eli, Rodgers, Big Ben, Peyton were the other 5.


Side Note: Can you believe Brady hasnt won a ring since 2004? Dang.

 

its a crap shoot no matter what round you draft a qb. for evey first round success i can name first round bust. like i said its almost 50/50 on super bowl winning qbs. just look at this year alone. some people would argue wilson was better than the top 2 picks in the draft. i think you find a qb that fits the system you want. do your homework and take him. it may be 1st or 6th.

 

Nothing at all since their video recording equipment was confiscated.

 

yeah brady cant cheat anymore.lol

 

Everyone realizes that when the Steelers do select the next FRANCHISE QB after Ben the Steelers will most likely be in a high state of suckness to be in position to draft said player. Those are lean years I'm not looking forward to!

 

Tebow - 1st round

All I need to know to say we don't need to draft a qb in the 1st round this year. 4th or 5th, fine. But get somebody in the 1st who can help us win...Is that possible under Tomlin?
Timmons - yes
Mendy - ?
Hood - doubtful
Pouncey - yes
Heyward - eh
DeCastro - time will tell, definitely think so.

 

I get what everyone's saying but, Montana: 3rd round, Ryan Leaf: #1 pick. Good is good no matter what round they're taken in.

 

AGAIN, I'm not saying 1st rounders don't bust, I'm saying a majority of the time they're the only ones that lead you to greatness... ugh, ok now I'm really done. I give up.

 

just curious sbd, how many years do u think ben has left? by that i mean at a high level. for the record i am not trying to piss u off.

 

Yep, the Patriots have just flat out sucked since then, haven't they?

 

I don't really have an exact number in mind, but I'd say it's safe to say we get about 4-5 more years out of him. My plan would be to get ourselves in a good position to rebuild around Ben for the next year or two, so that he gets another 2-3 years to make a run at a Superbowl with a championship caliber roster around him. With the way we're rebuilding the offensive line, Ben could really change his game as he gets older to be more of a pocket passer. He's pretty stubborn but who knows.

He will turn 31 in about a month. Favre palyed at 41, Elway 38, Trent Green 38 Warner 37, Gannon 36, McNair 36.

My ideal situation would be to draft a QB in round 1 in about 4 years. I say you take a QB in the first round even if you don't need him yet. The Carson Palmer/Aaron Rodgers type situation is the best case scenario.

 

Of course not. But they haven't taken any more Lombardis back to Beantown. Belichick is a great coach and Brady is a great QB but when you know what the opposition is going to do before the ball is snapped I'd say that gives you a little bit of an unfair advantage, wouldn't you?

 

Just yanking your chain, Jack.

I do agree it is a little suspicious how the superbowl success has dried up since spygate - but we can't pretend they haven't been there or thereabouts since.

 

thats what strummerfan does best... lol

HINES

 

100% correct.. when you have a high first round draft pick you take the next franchise QB

HINES