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If defense sucked, would you still be wanting fields?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Sep 24, 2024.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    A few rounds of Pimms Cup will affect your vision. You must be seeing double and feeling single Thig. :lolol:
     
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  2. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I understand. But I'm wondering how many of y'all would flip if we lost the games.

    For instance last years first three games scored more against us than this year.

    So I'm just wondering seeing a QB that didn't even break 200 yards for two games and has a ratio of 2:1, you would be totally fine with?..... because we will lose games.
     
  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Of course not if we had needed more than that. All he needed to do was manage the games in weeks 1+2, and he did. I was very skeptical of Fields based on his history and film with the Bears. However, he did some really good things on film Sunday. The running game was doing nothing until he started hitting passes in the middle of the field. We needed him to deliver in the passing game in week 3, and he did. That’s where things sit right now. It’s a week to week thing for me.
     
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  4. Mashburn

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    I was the same.

    I'm just thinking if we lost games, people would not be acting fine with him.
     
  5. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    You should seriously be put in timeout for trying to stir up sh!t when the team is 3-0 and for once there's some universal optimism throughout the board regarding the quarterback. Who gives a sh!t what may or not happen if they lose? This board and it's esteemed members don't need any help turning on each other. Shame on you.
     
  6. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    100% not trying to. I just seen how this board was. We had people wanting Malik Willis (not just trolls).

    And yes, it's even people who are regulars and been on here years. Even jeh said the other day that fields was a good backup.

    So I asked, deal with it. I'm fine with him, but I think if games were lost and he performed the same, I think people on here will flip.
     
  7. Born2Steel

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  8. TWISTER

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    And I’m just saying that if our Defense sucked, Does it matter who our QB is? Bengal Defense sucks and they have Joe Burrow. He is putting up great stats, but still yet they are losing.
     
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  9. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Fields had a good game Sunday and has shown some promise. Let's not forget he had an occasional good game in Chicago as well but not good enough to avoid getting canned. I'm going to temper my enthusiasm on Fields until we see consistent performance and continued improvement.
     
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  10. Lizard72

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    This is definitely a case of stat watching. If he doesn't get some of those throws called back or balls he put right on target or a few of those drops, his stats look way better.
     
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  11. jeh1856

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    IDK

    I went to a bingo with a bunch of queens who apparently had balls
     
  12. TWISTER

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    We might as well say Fields is basically a Rookie and as if he has never played in Chicago. I mean look at the great Caleb Williams with Chicago. No one is gonna succeed in that dumpster fire. And the sad thing is they actually went out and got talent to surround Williams. I mean Claypool was the #1 for Fields.

    Me myself has the mindset that Fields is a Rookie and has had 3 starts in the NFL, all games might not be pretty, but he is learning and we are 3-0.
     
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  13. defva

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    I think I understand what he's saying. My reply is that our top5 defense is allowing Fields and Co. to gel and improve each week. This kinda remind me of Ben's rookie season. I believe, if our defense sucked ... before we were 0-3 ... Wilson would've be in there. And, it would've been the same as last season ... a qb carousel.
     
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  14. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    The number 1 for Fields last year was DJ Moore, who is very good, and he also had Cole Kmet at TE. I like the thought of thinking of Fields as a rookie who needs to be groomed into an NFL QB, but a big difference is that a rookie QB is under contract cheap for 4-5 years whereas Fields can earn a huge payday with a good season.

    Hopefully he balls out for the rest of the season and forces the team to open up the wallet. However, that will constrain dollars that can be spent on other parts of the roster.
     
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  15. Steelersfan43

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    true for 2023,but in 2022,it was Claypool in the second half of the season.And the bears were such a dumpster fire and they had the worst defense in the NFL until the second half of the season in 2023 when they become much better but this is hard for a young QB to win and gain confidance in a dumpster fire!...Look at Caleb Williams right now
     
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  16. DJ18Baller

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    A big thing to watch for is when Fields has some adversity or the defense isn’t holding a team to 10 points, how does he react and play. Fields has played better than I expected so far hopefully he can keep it rolling.
     
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  17. Steel_Elvis

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    Look, the Bears receiving room wasn’t good at all in 2022, but Claypool wasn’t the #1. He was a dumb decision by management to get what they thought would be a #1, but fizzled like a dead sparkler immediately.
     
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  18. Mashburn

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    No it doesn't matter, but people are not going to be saying that fields is good. In fact there will be some who blame fields.

    Field is not putting up great numbers like Joe is.
     
  19. Mashburn

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    True. But that's also true for a lot of quarterbacks.
     
  20. Mashburn

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    Thanks.

    No way am I saying fields sucks. I just don't see this board all happy with him if we were 0 and 3. I think a lot of people would be pointing to his stats are meh.
     
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  21. Lizard72

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    That's true as well, but it's ignoring what we've seen with out own eyes. v He's absolutely made throws that should have kept drives alive and/or scored. Absolute dimes that we haven't seen in the Steelers QB room for a long time.
     
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  22. MeanJoeBlue

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  23. S.T.D

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    Winner....because outside of the 1st game Burrow has been playing really well, and yet they are 0-3
     
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  24. S.T.D

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    I've been saying this forever. QBR is a made up stat that has never made any sense...., and people only use it when it suits their purposes....kinda like PFF.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Maybe not today. LoL
     

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