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If defense sucked, would you still be wanting fields?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Sep 24, 2024.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    Obviously we all know coaching matters .... but do we?
     
  2. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Shoot, have you not seen this board in years past? Last year our offense looked like crap and people were torching players they wanted gone from defense.

    I put $100 on it the second the Steelers lose a game, there's going to be that's on we should have started wilson.
     
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  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    That’s an easy bet for you to win since you can be the one to start that thread.
     
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  4. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    You're full of it if you don't think this board will lose it when we lose a game. There will be threads on putting fields down with, his stats not being great. With saying he's 2:1 ratio, and two games were below 200 yards passing.

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  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    can't compare this year offense with last year offense.....Even when they were 6-3,the steelers could not move the ball at all and they were lucky to have this record...I had mentioned multiple times last year

    This year, it's not perfect and that's normal since we have a new OC, but the steelers are still one of the best teams in time of possession and our offense plays a big part of that and Fields' stats would have been much better after 2 games without the flag happy refs in Denver and we would have had a different discussion about Fields last week, but now Fields had a good stats line this week and it was very deserved
     
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  6. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Box score watching
     
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  7. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    What would his stats have been if we weren’t able to sit on the ball and play conservative? You seem to be presuming that we’d be performing the same on offense if our defense gave up more points.
     
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  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    Thank Chicago for that then.


    They are the ones who effed up the program. Take it up with the McCaskeys, Ryan Pace and Matt Eberflus.
     
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  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    True and penalties cost like 70-100 yards in his stats line in the first 2 games....This is a lot!

    And he had only 23 and 20 pass attempts in the first 2 week!
     
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  10. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    :shrug:
    Well, it sounds to me like you need to start a new poll.
     
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  11. TWISTER

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    You can throw these stats up all you want, but show the stats that can show so much more that has improved drastically from last year.

    How many 3 and outs.
    Time Of Possession
    How many more 1st Downs.
    Field Positioning
     
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  12. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    offense SUCKED this time last year!
     
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  13. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    we were the worst 6-3 team in NFL history! Pickett and Candada SUCKED

    look, duck and roll Kenny!
     
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  14. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    This was what I was referring to, it was a frivolous comment
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    Completely agree about QBR though
     
  15. Steelvision

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    If the defense sucked, i wouldnt want Fields, or Wilson or Tomlin

    i’d want a regime change and start drafting defensive players and our next franchise Qb. DT in rd 1 and the following year Qb in rd 1 - just like Dan Rooney did back in the day
     
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  16. Robert

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    I think that it is a false question because you have to look at the team as a whole. Justin Fields plays the way he does because that's what the team needs him to do. Get some points either through touchdowns or by getting Boswell and range and protect the ball. If our defense sucked and other teams were destroying us on points, yes we would have to score more points. We would have paid more attention to wide receivers and Justin Fields would be airing it out more. The entire team dynamic would be completely different......imo
     
  17. Formerscribe

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    I saw it, too, but that is probably just the page break. The larger reason why those rankings are a joke are that Mahomes is so low.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

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    Yeah, this list is ****, Fields is playing better ball than several of those QBs ahead of him. Also his passer rating is one of the highest.
     
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  19. MeanJoeBlue

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    I think mentioning Patrick Queen's testicles is not only off-topic, but might be against the rules.
     
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  20. Tweezer

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    Would hate to have to deal with this again the next almost 2 seasons...brutal!!!!
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  21. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Smith as well. I look at who is on O and the injuries and we are very thin. Regardless of who we have played so far, the game plan has worked, the wins have come, and in every game the O seems to be building. Could we use more help. sure, but who and what cost? (other teams are not going to send you their best because they like us).
     
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  22. Rel

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    Coaching only matters in this town when the team is losing. ;)
     
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  23. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Well... our head ball coach has never had a losing season here :eek:
     
  24. JKLTO

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    This question is nonsensical on its face, since our QB and offense overall would probably be playing quite a bit very differently if our defense was a disaster.

    In fact, in that alternate universe where our D is bottom 5 in the league but Fields is still our QB, Fields' numbers would probably look substantially more inflated, as a much greater burden to win would be placed upon him and the offense would be forced to take far more risks.

    In other words, that Fields, on the surface, looks relatively pedestrian (at least through the prism certain mainstream metrics) so far this season, is likely, at least in part, a reflection of the fact that our defense (and Chris Boswell) are playing lights out.
     
  25. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    On the defense question, I honestly believe we would not be 3-0 if our defense wasn’t has dominant as it has been. No way.
    Fields just needs to be avg at best. No turnovers or excessive turnovers and Steelers will be fine if defense keeps playing the way they are.
     
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