I'm worried about our locker room

First someone comes out and says Woodley was out of shape, which you can say, but don't do it anonymously to some reporter.

Clark had this to say today...
"My biggest problem with that is not LaMarr, or is not someone's feelings about LaMarr," Clark said. "My problem is now it's public. We were talking about the Ravens earlier, we were talking about the brotherhood, we were talking about the family that they were. We all have arguments with our brothers, sisters, cousins, but that stays in-house. What you talk about then stays there and it doesn't get out to the public. So that is the problem. ...
"That shows that this team that is normally close, you had the Joey Porters, the Alan Fanecas, just down the line, leader after leader, this team was close-knit. It shows there is a fracture in that. I think that is the most disappointing thing about that coming out."

 

i'm more worried about the people out of shape than the fraternity and brotherhood , tomlin or who else has to right the ship about discipline and work ...all other things will come along

 

i'm worried about both. as i said in another thread, we will lose our mean too if we cut harrison. who else do we have that's as mean as JH and carries that to the field and in his regiment of working out?

 

So true. It's probably the biggest problem a coach could face. Tomlin seems to give these guys too much leaway. They're grown men and professionals and he treats them as such, but the problem is, they don't act the part. I think he needs to reign them in more. There just doesn't seem to be enough discipline and I think it's because Tomlin has such high expectations and he allows a certain element of self-policing, which clearly hasnt' worked all that well with this group.

 

i know but is the last of the problem when you have an anarchy diffusion everywhere ,of course the locker room is divided , everybody do what they want, fix the biggest problem than see other things going along , then if you still have some locker room problem you will act
this team has lost control from the head

 

I remember when other teams pointed to us as a franchise to model themselves after. Now we have diva's, guys who think they are celebrities, players talking about other players to the media. Just look at the jets and the problems they have had in their locker room. We aren't they jets yet, but this is how it starts. I'm sure the Rooney's are not happy having their team make headlines like this in the off season. Tomlin is going to have his hands full with all of this, and he needs to step in, not as a buddy or a friend, but as the boss. If some of these guys are gonna act like children, than Tomlin and the rest of the coaching staff need to treat them as such, and make this team come together. They are losing sight of what the goal is, and they don't seem hungry any more.

 

every team reflect his coach ,this one is soft and talker

 

So Clark is saying that he hates the fact that a locker room issue has become public, then adds to it by airing publicly a point about lack of leadership? Isn't he meant to be one of the leaders? I don't understand.

 

First, the locker room only becomes divided if Woodley chooses to make it so at this point. Whether he knows the person or not, the way he reacts to seeing that person will affect how the locker room behaves. He can go to him personally and fix this just by saying hey, next time come to me. Ideally, the 2 guys get this worked out AND Woodley realizes that the player is right and fixes his weight issues.

 

It's hard to make amends when you don't know who it is. My guess is that whoever went to the media anonymously isn't going to own up to it, or they wouldn't have done it in the first place.

I don't put it on Woodley. It's on whoever said it.

My guess is that Ryan Clark will address the team privately and it will go away without us ever knowing it... but I hope it's straightened out.

 

maybe who sayd it will not even be on the team next year , a lot of this season players will leave

 

This would be the most sensible action. So why is Clark talking to the media about it? Surely the media isn't the most direct way to speak to your team-mates...

 

That is exactly my point. At this point Woodley has to act like everyone said something bad about him to the press, or he can act like he cares less. If no one is going to own up to it, then he has only himself to blame for dividing the locker room. Yes the person shouldn't have said it publically, but how it goes from here... is up to Woodley. He can make it a further issue or he can overlook it an move on.

 

Steelers need a leader in the locker room for the whole team, not just one side of the ball. A Peezy/Bettis/Farrior/Ward guy.

Big Ben and Ryan Clarks could be that type of person, but they can't compare to the guys I just mentioned.

Troy kind of does his own thing. All the other guys are just too young. Clark said himself that Mendy is one of the oldest on offense...and look at him, he is not a leader at all? Pouncey/Decastro could be big time leaders, but they are just too young.

 

heath miller should be the offense leader

 

It's not his style. You can't make someone a leader, either they are, or they're not. We just don't have the Porter or Bettis right now

 

yes but as a old blue collar type of player he could be similar to faneca , otherwise we could look at pouncey , it depends if you want a clever one or a nasty one

 

I sometimes worry about the LACK of leadership we see from Ben. It doesn't appear that the team necessarily views Ben as much of a leader.

 

The passive aggressive comments and the negative body language that we see from him probably makes some of his teammates unhappy just as it makes some fans unhappy. That alone would negatively affect his ability to lead the team.

 

Im surprised with the lack of leadership from BEN crap....no other qb would have tried to go out and play with his injuries

 

Not questioning his toughness, just his leadership. The two can be mutually exclusive.

 

this stuff happens. i remember hines questioning ben. mendy was questioned. back in the day i remember franco being questioned for running out of bounds by a teammate. its just now te media has access to every thought it seems

 

All Woodley have to do squash any lockeroom problems is show up in shape and perform at a pro bowl level. Then nobody will care what was said about him.