mid feb. try

it's hard to say right now with so many things that could happen yet with our team but here's one that might make some sense if they could pull it off.




1. barkevious mingo OLB lsu 6-4 250 4.57. lots to work with.fast,quick and stoudt. strong, just needs some coaching of technique.

2. thomas phillips FS fres.st. 6-1 210 4.57. creates turnovers. forced fumbles and interceptions.

3. kiko alonso ILB ore. 6-3 242 4.74. plays faster. holds up well against blocks. gets to the ball quick. a very active guy all over the field.

yes thats the top 3 on the defenses side of the ball.

4. kenjon barner RB ore. 5-9 190 4.39. perfect homerun threat. holds up well. perfect in the ZBS.

5. cory fuller WR VT 6-2 197 4.43. he's the take the top off the defense guy. he should allow AB and sanders and cotchery to operate. hgt. and speed.

6. ryan griffen QB tul. 6-4 216 4.90 nice young prospect with a good arm to learn as a backup.

7. michael ford RB lsu 5-10 216 4.46 was used as a partime feature back at lsu, so, low milage with talent. a steal at this point.

7. keenan davis WR iowa 6-2 216 4.48 under used at iowa and a good receiver. good across the middle, but also downfield qualities. well rounded.

7.a. joe madsen C/G wvu 6-4 301 5.25 tough kid. plays in that wvu high octane offense. no less then 67 snaps per game only twice, so he can hold up all game. can play guard w nice size and mobile. strong showing at sr. bowl at both positions. 50 strait starts. he would liven up the lockeroom.

either guy in rd. 7. would suite me. or both if they are around as priority udfa's.

there you go. quite different from a few weeks ago, but all these spots are need heavy. the D gets the top guys but the rest are not slouches at thier positions and fill our depth needs.

 

mac .. if warmack is available at 17 do you pull the trigger ?

 

Ummm...no idea...as I know about Mingo and Barner....i might have heard the 2nd rounders name, but dont know much about him either. But from those I do know of...at this point this mock doesnt excite me one bit.

 

all i can say is if warmack is there at 17 and we dont take him. I will be as dissapointed as i was when we took troy edwards. he is a stud and we would not have to worry about the oline for at least ten yr. that is what a 1st round pick is suppose to do. lock up a position for many years. we are one of the few teams that succeed at that. heath, troy, ben, timmons, and casey are just a few examples. you draft rb or wr in the first and they have success you cant afford them. examples plax and holmes with mendy being a possibility

 

Love your 5th and 6th round picks. I like Fuller a lot and actually touted Griffin in another thread. Some said he had the liveliest arm at the Senior Bowl.

 

And I will pose this question to you. Lets say they took Warmack...and paid him with the other 1st/2nd rounders to have an OL of Gilbert (2nd), Warmack (1st), Pouncey (1st), DeCastro (1st), and Adams (2nd)...and lets say the majority of them pan out and turn into studs...how are they going to pay them to keep them all for the next 10 years as people say? Obviously (and luckily) they would become FA's at different times/years. But still...I'd find it hard to believe they'd invest 50-60 mil each year on the OL alone (while yes I know they have like 80-100 mil in 6-8 players on the team right now), but still...it makes you wonder if they could/would.

Also another thing...obviously they've invested a lot of higher picks in the OL in recent years. While ignoring other positions who could use some guys...if they keep putting more on the OL and ignoring other spots...then it will be the same for those other spots at it was for the OL for years (being ignored/etc). A team usually can't afford to do that.

 

no. i'd love to have him here but we have way too much invested there that we need to find out about yet. beachum's play last year also may have taken a higher round guy off the charts. i think he's your LG next year. it's also his ability to play tackle in a pinch too, that makes him a keeper. he would be the 3rd tackle.

i'm not sure legursky is back with us either. 1.3 mil. and struggles at guard, or a 7th rounder? we have no money. that's why i think we get a guy like madsen right down the road. he has a ton of starts (50) at G and C.

 

i agree gp. i think we will look like your picture next season. alot of new potential there and a new start with a new coach and scheme.

 

Yup! Beachum...after his rocky start to preseason he turned it around at the end...and then the more he played late in the year the better he got. And with his size (more of a guard size)...he could be good at OG...who knows yet. But if they feel he can be the guy...I'm all for it. They still need a later round pick added in (and maybe a vet FA and getting Legs back).

 

I think u treat olineman different. If u can get a stud u do. Lets face it guys we have seen this team underachive the past few years with a bad oline. Put a solid linenon this team and an averge back becomes good. the qb is better.

 

again, i'm not sure legs comes back. he was undrafted, so there's no use tendering at more than 1.3 mil. thats alot for a backup with our money woes. he struggled at guard. teams out there know and would be willing to pay more then what we would offer to keep him. he did start a SB and played alot in the PO's. he could start at C for some teams.

i think we keep malecki as the BU C this year. he can play guard too. he's cheaper by far.

i think cheadle stays as the swing guard.

we also have the long kid as another T.

i still think we grab a guy that can play C and G to fill out the roster and an UDFA after the draft. most likely a G/T type.

that would give us 10 on the cheap with 5 starters already on board.

and yes very young.

pouncey 5yrs.

gilbert in his 3rd

malecki in his 3rd, not all active but he does have some game expierience.

DD,adams,beachum in their 2nd but all have starts under their belts.

i just think money is going to be this tight this year.

 

i know what your saying steel, but we have alot tied up in this bunch , plus they think we hit a diamond in the rough with beachum. he outplayed his draft position by far last year.

with this new scheme and coach, they have a nice set of guys capable of running this scheme. they are smart, young, mobile, and 2- ones and 2 twos is probably a higher % then most teams. there will be some good linemen available late and as UDFA's. i think this will be where they shop this year. looking for another beachum. somebody scouting did their homework, let's hope they do it again.

 

i am of the philosophy you win up front. i dont care if you have 5 ones or 3 ones and 2 7's. I want a dominate line. the 49ers for example used 3 1st round picks for lineman and are considered the best in the league and are. I see your point but i hate to leave it to the scouting when if we get warmack we would have the three best young interior lineman in the game. pouncy decstro and warmack would be a dominate group for many years. beachum, well to my knowledge has not much if any experience at guard. if we move him there we lose any depth at tackle. i know the coaches know a hell of alot more than i do so i will agree with what they do. it is probably not gonna happen anyway. warmack wont drop that far

 

i wonder if warmack is the best fit for the new zone blocking scheme? he's a mauler type.

beachum practiced some at LT and mostly at LG last year. he didn't practice at RT, but was put in there when adams went down. that's the spot he didn't practice at, until he had to play there. he played pretty well for a rookie. that's 3 spots he had to learn last year. he even played some guard this year in one game early in the year. he got better as his playing time and practice time went on. i think if he gets a whole camp at LG under his belt he will do well there. if a tackle goes down he could easily jump to the RT spot again. they will probably teach him to be the 3rd center. he's a very smart guy.

we will have some guys in here to look at. possibly some guys that were on some practice squads last year. or two year PS guys for backups. at least this is the feel i'm getting. i have no problem with beachum getting his shot and our money situation.

don't get me wrong, i'd love to get a couple of more stud blue chippers in here sitting around, but i don't see it this year.

 

at 17 i would like a player ready to start from day one in a position of need . so no one on the defense usually the only position is wr te rb or lg . now between these position the only player i see has value at 17 is warmack , if we want a player to develope for 2014 we can go in any of the other directions

 

he's projected in the 5th. just no room for him there since fuller has jumped two draft rounds lately. i've wanted him from the start as the wr addition.

i've also been with barner since early. he's the best zone blocking rb in the draft. the tulane qb (griffen) if sitting there would be a gem for us to start grooming for backup duties. yea i'd love to have pryor but i didn't think he fit as well with what they might do.

i could see the steelers drafting something like this if JH goes. i don't think mingo would start, but would hope we finally put in a few pass rush packages with that speed off the edge. teams have to account for it.