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I will agree as well; provided he does much better than in game one.

 

but your a Fields hater lol. Jk bro

i am pretty quiet when it comes to debating the effectiveness of Fields. Last year I supported KFP and looking back on that train wreck I am disappointed. I want to see how this plays out before I pass too much judgement. I thought JTs coverage was fair. Fields did some good things and some bad things

 

1st it was We aren't running plays to the middle of the field, and then when tape shows what some of us have seen....that they did have routes to the middle of the field.....now its.....they told Him to not throw them. LoL
So then explain why the targets are looking at him to throw it????
I believe, and I have no proof , but that they didn't start that way, but changed to that mindset later in the game....because the play calling shows that a bit.....but the earlier plays shows the targets looking for the ball. People don't some of You find it funny this is the same things said by people with certain Qbs last year......Yet when other Qbs played all of sudden .....those Qbs were throwing into the middle of the field....., but hey people... believe what you want. I can only say what is on the actual game tape/film......I can't read minds.....,,but I have never ever heard a coach ever say ......hey we are running routes, and if they are open....don't throw it.....,,but I have heard of coaches, and player sticking up for bad play.
That's all I got on the subject. Believe what makes You feel the best, and more power to everyone.

 

Dude. I want Him to be great. He's Young, athletic, and a very nice kid from what I've heard, and read. I just find it funny the same exact same things that were said about one Qb last year, but not about the others, are now being said again.

 

I don't believe one thing or another. As I said, no one really knows for sure. Just stating an opinion. I assume you're ok with that, no?

 

Yeah, it may be simply a repeat of everything we have already seen. He could be great but I will settle for good at this point. I like the fact he has the legs and athleticism however, I NEVER want to see him bailing like KFP did. He has to work on his reads and he can't throw it behind receivers like he has been doing. I will give him credit for doing enough to win a game when the plan was not to go with him against Atlanta.

 

Yes....I'm totally cool with it, and I was just stating mine. It's all good.

 

Same Here.

 

I said this in another thread but I’m sure coaches are not saying don’t throw it to open players what they are saying is protect the ball at all costs and don’t take chances. That mentality has all these QBs second guessing themselves and throwing 2 yard outs, check downs or running. They are scared to make a mistake or probably feel MT will bench them.

 

Now that I can buy. That is reasonable. Because We seen Trubisky, and Mason throw into the middle of the field,,but Not Fields, and Kenny P.
That makes more sense....than game planing someone into the middle of the field, and then saying......don't throw it there. They being young maybe afraid to do it.
Yes . I like this explanation better. LoL

 

well I don't get the argument.. He didn't complete a single pass over the middle. Presumably his coaches jump to his defense and decide hell if he's not going to throw over the middle there's nothing we can do so we'll shelve a big part of our offense and just call the throws he wants to make. So I guess I'm done with this. I am probably too dense to understand it all

 

This wasn't about that. This was about the....we have no routes to the middle of the field. That's why I posted it. To show that that was not true.

 

Atlanta and Denver??? That's not an impressive body of work to annoint anyone as an automatic starter for the rest of the year. I see these two QBs as a game to game decision, depending on how good their last game was. Not a very enviable situation we're in this season.

 

LoL. Just say it was wrong. There were 4 that I remember, and maybe more that I don't..... 4 is way different than 0. Is it not??? Also Your vaunted route charts shows none....yet the actual game tape shows that's not true. Yet instead of looking at what actually happened.....some would rather go by a chart. Seems like that's burying the head in the sand because it doesn't support a claim....., but that's just me, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions.....but people don't say something didn't happen.....when someone can actually point to actual film, and show that it did......unless people think the film is fake.
Hell there are still people that are arguing there were none, and will not watch the video that clearly shows there were some.

 

As I had said before, two things can be true here. It is possible that Smith told Fields to stay away from the m.o.f. Again, it could be coach speak but no one here knows for sure which came first. Yet, fans will continue to come their own conclusions.

Regarding the routes, it would not only be possible but expected for Smith to still have routes going through the middle of the field. Schematically, they're trying to clear out or draw defenders to a certain area. That's not a hard concept to grasp if you watch enough football. That doesn't mean that Fields has any intention of throwing to those routes based on Smith's instructions. Of course the receivers are going to look back at the quarterback. That's what they're conditioned to do and maybe with broken coverage one is so undeniably open that Fields has to make the throw.
To reiterate again though, no one knows for sure and they got the win so at this point it's a pretty senseless argument unless it is a glaring trend throughout the season.

 

Who is being obtuse. You said there were none....I showed there were some. There is a big difference between none, and some.

 

See now if You didn't say none....there would be no argument, but you did, and you even use chart to try backing it up....yet the film shows some. The whole argument is over .......quite simply people saying there were none. I don't know how to make this anymore simple. I would not have said one thing of people said......We didn't use the middle of the field much, but that's not what was said, and you know it.....what was said was we didn't use the middle of the field at all, they completely ignored the middle of the field, and as My eyes, anyone's eyes that watched the game, and the video shows that was incorrect. It really that simple.