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Cam Heyward: 2017 Was Last Year Steelers Were True Contenders, Shazier Injury ‘Threw Us For A Loop’

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  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  2. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Actually,.... I completely agree with this and have said so to many of my fellow Steelers fans.
    Since then the run game tanked, the defense was uneven, and the OCs have been abysmal.
     
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  3. DJ18Baller

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    Exactly when Mike T should have been canned.
     
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  4. Voice of Reason

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    Do you think any team would fire their coach following a 13 win season?
     
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  5. Voice of Reason

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    The years 2018 through 2020 weren’t kind to us.

    - Bell holds out
    - AB loses his mind and is traded
    - Ben is hurt and is never the same
    - 2020 was the last year for DeCastro, Villanueva, and Pouncey
     
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  6. mikeyg

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    correct - that NIGHT
     
  7. mikeyg

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    so, he should have been canned after 2017, or then had the DECENCY to leave when Ben left.

    neither happened....and here we are.

    thank you Rooney....
     
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  8. mikeyg

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  9. 86WardsWay

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    After that terrible playoff loss to Jacksonville absolutely MT should have been replaced.
     
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  10. DJ18Baller

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    Yes because Regular Seasons don’t mean crap when you realize the guy can’t win a big game anymore.
     
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  11. DJ18Baller

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    And look what has happened since :facepalm:
     
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  12. DJ18Baller

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    I mean we have to see how this years plays out but most likely we are not an actual contending team. OLine looks shaky and has a lot of youth and unproven players. QBs are below average and WR room is terrible. So after this year you are probably looking at 8 years of no playoff wins and not contending. It’s crazy they extended him.
     
  13. mikeyg

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    Rooney LIKES IT!!!!
     
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  14. Voice of Reason

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    How did you feel about Ben’s performance in that game?
     
  15. Voice of Reason

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    My point was that we lost key pieces and didn’t do a good job replacing them. Tomlin has to own part of that, but so does Colbert and Co. (Kahn was part of those decisions too).
     
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  16. DJ18Baller

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    Ben doesn’t play D. Making Blake Bortles look like Johnny Unitas and Fournette like Jim
    brown.

    Ben threw for 460 yards and 5 TDs. Would take our QBs now about 10 games to put up those stats.
     
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  17. DJ18Baller

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    Roster building wise they all get blame for sure. Unfortunately Art Rooney isn’t going to fire himself however.
     
  18. Voice of Reason

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    Bortles with 214 yards and Fournette with 109 yards.

    That’s a regular Unitas and Jim Brown….
     
  19. DJ18Baller

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    Ben threw for 460 yards and 5 TDs.
     
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  20. 86WardsWay

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    The entire team was unprepared and thought all they had to do was show up. That falls squarely on the coaching.
     
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  21. Voice of Reason

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    Playing from behind and Jags playing prevent to chew up the clock.

    Ben spotted them 14 points.
     
  22. DJ18Baller

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    Blake Bortles was horrible that was a Unitas game for him. 109 yards rushing in a divisional playoff game is pretty good no?
     
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  23. DJ18Baller

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    The turnovers hurt no question. Browns game was similar. The fact that our defensive gurus boys didn’t even get off the bus for either game?? Of course not Mike Ts fault.
     
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  24. SGSteeler

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    No, but the embarrassing way that the players acted prior to the playoff game (and the embarrassing way that they played in the game) was a microcosm of Tomlin's career. Walk into games we should win and get kicked in the teeth. I probably wouldn't have fired him, but the seat should've gotten hot. I would've fired him after losing to the Browns in the playoffs. Another embarrassing loss to a team we shouldn't have lost to (who's coach was out due to COVID). He essentially got out coached by a guy watching the game on the couch.
     
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  25. Arch Stanton

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    I didn't read the article, but there's no question that there was a dark cloud hanging over the entire Steelers organization after the devastating Ryan Shazier injury, and that cloud has lingered on for years now. It set on a chain reaction of misfortunes that were to follow, which have led the Steelers to state they're in today, wallowing in mediocrity.
     

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