Broderick Jones

I know… I thought you would get a kick out of the dont be a Richard

 

Yes, the decision isn't always who is best (or who is best at that specific time). Sometimes you have to make a decision because it is the right decision for the TEAM. And I think developing and giving experience to Jones is what is correct for the future of the team. He either gets better over the course of the next 2-3 years and we have LT locked down, or he doesn't and we go find another option. Don't stunt his growth because we think someone who wont even be here next year is slightly better than him at this current moment.

 

That's all great.....if....you aren't trying to win games. As a coach you do what helps to win on games day, and hope you can develop the other guy. As a coach your future can end any week, and worrying more about the future than tomorrow could get You fired.

 

So could ruining a player's chance to improve by not giving him the time on the field to actually improve, right? It's one thing to bench a Pro Bowl caliber player for a rookie just because you want to. This is Dan Moore we are talking about here... and Jones isn't a rookie. He had a fine rookie season for a young guy with limited experience. This is a close decision, so go with what is best for the future. If it isn't a close decision, then go with the better player. Simple as that. Don't overthink it.

If Jones is out there getting his guy's killed, then what is best for the TEAM likely changes. But to me there isn't much of a decision to make Jones/Seumalo/Frazier/Daniels/Fautanu needs to be the opening day OL.

 

They are not starting a guy (Moore)they have no strings, or big money attached to over( Jones) who they have money, and draft capital in because they want to. It's not that they want Jones not to get better. We've seen Jones play one game at LT, and it wasn't great by any means. I promise you if Jones who they have all this tied to was just even.....he would be starting over Moore.
Problem is Moore has shown that every single year....He has got better.

 

Pretty much true, Moore has been their best tackle for the last 3 years now. People keep counting him out, but once again he'll be their starting LT because thus far nobody else has proved to be better. I think that will probably change soon though once Troy and Broderick get the hang of things, provided they stay healthy. Moore hasn't really missed many games due to injury, so he's really had the time to develop and improve. Those are pretty important factors as to why he's still in the starting line-up

 

When they count out Moore, they really overlook him. As need to give him the respect he deserves and needs. He hasn't missed many games I agree. Keeps on improving.

 

Again, and, I cannot believe this to be true;


Dan Moore has played the best of any starting Offensive Lineman thus far in the Preseason. Yes, that Dan Moore; Pittsburgh's perennial whipping boy has beaten the odds yet again. Should Dan Moore finally, and I mean finally, put it all together?! I'd imagine that someone is going to want to pay him well in the Offseason.


Granted, his first three seasons have not showcased otherwise. However, when the OC really is an OC in name only and cannot manage an NFL Offense?!.... quite a bit of players are going to look either out of place or downright awful. Arthur Smith has shown in this league he is a very good Offensive Coordinator.


Expecting Smith to fix this literal reconstruction project of an Offense with only three preseason games in addition to very limited Training Camp and OTA time was hasty. Offense will grow through the growing pains but it doesn't seem that Moore is going to be one of the recipients of that change.

 

Barring his arm injury needing additional attention, I think we are going to start Jones at LT week one. And yeah we have seen Jones play once at LT, and that was the Ravens game last year at home, and it was arguably Jones' best game as a pro.

I'd find it hard to believe that we think Moore is a lot better than Jones right now. We literally drafted OT in the last two drafts because we thought our T's sucked. You don't draft two first round tackles if you think you have a solid player at that position. I think that they think it is close right now, but believe Jones will be a far superior player in short order. I don't think that they took a bad preseason performance and reconsidered Jones' abilities. Only time will tell I guess. I'm sure we will know how they feel based on who is starting week 1.

 

first round guarantee's nothing. moore works hard and as coaches have said doesn't make the same mistakes twice. if jones elbow is affecting his feet then he is in trouble. it's not all about one first round player either. that one player can effect many others around him. they would be quite foolish to throw all their eggs in forcing him in the lineup. maybe we keep moore by next year who knows. why give away a known commodity just to play a guy you drafted in the first if said guy is not performing well. i hope the kid does come through but it has to begin to show. troy may very well become the better LT. may the best men win. nothing should be forced. that would be the stupidest thing they could do.

 

Just because he has played both positions the same amount of time does not mean he is not better suited for one side or the other. I believe that is the point people are trying to make. They feel that he could reach a higher ceiling at the left tackle position. I don't believe anybody knows whether that's true or not until we see it long-term.
As far as Fields goes, I believe some people have had some guarded optimism regarding his improvement and some have felt like he is never going to improve. Either way, I haven't seen anyone on here who thought that he was going to be a sure thing. As with any other opinion regarding the Steelers, you're either optimistic about a player or you're not but no one knows for sure until it plays out.

 

The Steelers drafted OT in the 1st round 2 years in a row. I'm thinking they didn't draft 2 RTs, 2LTs, but maybe 2 swing OTs with their versatility and athleticism. I'm still not convinced Fautanu won't end up at OG. We will definitely know more by October.

 

Agreed. Without knowing inside info, we just have no idea what their intentions are with some of these players. Precisely why I leave that stuff up to the pros. I'll stick to what I know best, beer and music.

 

Granted he played a better today than last week, but it looked to me like he was still struggling with that punch. Hopefully he can play though that elbow injury, and continue to improve as the season progresses

 

A good man always knows his limitations

 

Yeah, with all the "experts" around here it appears I'm one of the few.

 

still not great for jones.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...S&cvid=a53e2f444be2465aa5b3a84fc01ffc83&ei=20

get well troy.

 

I thought the point was to win

 

still have not heard anything definitive on 2 things:

1) how and when did this injury occur?

2) can it get better with rest - or are we doomed with avg play from him all season long?

 

It is. How is making a decision on two closely rated players stopping us from winning? If they view Moore as a way better player than Jones, then this isn't even a question... but I don't think they do. I think they view them as pretty close at the moment (they might even view Jones as the superior player, as I do already), so why not play the kid that has a shot to be your LT of the future rather than a guy you have signed through the end of the year? This has no effect on your probability of winning.

 

The local media said something happened with his arm early in camp, then he started wearing the brace.