2024 steelers training camp

That will change when the offense finally starts scoring points. Its amazing (and a testament to the defense) that we won as many as we did the past 2 years averaging 18ppg offensively over that span. We averaged 16.1 offensive ppg in games started by Kenny Pickett. It was atrocious.

We will start to see us win by an actual margin as soon as we start scoring enough points to win by margins. The defense should be good enough (if healthy) to keep us in it every week. It will be up to the offense on how easy or hard it is for us to win.

 

It's so frustrating to see Tomlin stubbornly keep Moore as LT...I joke sometimes by saying that Moore is Tomlin's favorite player but it seems like that sometimes

 

Steelers saving more money, but for what ? Hmmmm

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Newsflash: The 70s Steelers aren't walking through that door .

 

Fair enough, but the last four years they had a limited Ben and a combo of Pickett/Trubisky/Rudolph at QB. They weren't going to blow anybody out combine that with the JV offense coached by Canada.

 

You can be dominant even if you are not dominant like the 1970s steelers...My point is very similar at the one of Steel_Elvis.This is important to be able to win close game but you can't always rely on that.Need to win different way and if the steelers have a better offense this year(like top 15 at least),it should help

 

This is where Tomlin becomes infuriating. He preaches of not living in your fears yet he is coaching in his fears here. They are doing a disservice to both Jones and Fautanu here.

 

the other reason I’m not buying it is the cost of the QB position in the nfl. The Ravens are trying to get Lamar to run less because he can’t finish a season healthy. The rookie QB for the colts last year is a running QB and got hurt. Just as a matter of practicality and economics I don’t see running QB’s overtaking the traditional pocket passers. Who was in the

 

Bad news for Holcomb not missing at least some of the season. They only save money if he is on IR or cut.

 

I too am a true believer in pocket passing QB's.

How do you view Patrick Mahomes? Tom Brady was a pocket passer. Mahomes seems to be almost the perfect combination. Jalen Hurt seems pretty good at both. Lamar Jackson loses his legs I just can't see him ever being a pure passer.

 

Patrick Mahomes is a pocket passer who can scramble to extend the play. Very different from Lamar Jackson.

 

And like I said to Elvis they weren't going to dominate anybody with their QB play the last few years.

 

it seems like every year a team emerges and they win a high % of low score or games by last minute heroics, Steelers won the division that way a few years back, the next year they lost a lot of those close score games. I think its around 25% of NFL games are decided 3 pts or less, its going to happen, but to play it close and depend on winning those games is where the problem comes in. Adding 4 pts a game to 22 would be a huge advantage for the D. Adding 7 points and being a top 10 O even better, but a huge undertaking. I know it's boring stats talk, but the difference between 4 and 3 points can be pretty huge over an entire season, having to defend against a TD to win and a FG toe tie it up can make a lot of difference over the course of 17 games.

 

Cost is definitely a good argument for sure. Teams wont want their biggest investment sitting on the bench hurt... but the smart teams are going to chance it. You play to your best player's strengths even if it gives them a little bit better chance of getting hurt. Lamar is a star in the league because of his running skills. Take that away and he is a lesser version of himself. Let him run a bit, make plays... just tell him to slide when he can, run OB to avoid hits, etc. If he stays healthy you'll have a really good shot. If he gets hurt, you're not winning it all anyways. It is a bit riskier, but why lessen your chances to win in order to heighten your chances of staying healthy?

Running QB's will become more of the norm simply out of availability. Some will develop into Mahomes/Allen types who can do both, but most will be Fields/Lamar/Hurts. The number of pure pocket passers in college will continue to decline and the number of athletes that play QB will rise. We've already seen it start to happen, and it doesn't seem like it is going to change. College offenses are built around this type of player. Very few offenses will deploy a Brady-style pocket passer, while most of the top offenses will deploy a hybrid or flat out running QB. I get that the college game is a bit different, but that is where the NFL gets its QB stock. There will certainly be a few pocket passers that get overlooked and then drafted later that will succeed (see Purdy), and there will be athletes that get massively overdrafted (see Willis), but the outcome will stay the same. Most of these guys coming out of college are athletes or hybrid style QB's. Because of that, the stock into the league will reflect that.

 

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Justin looks so comfortable and poised in this offense. If we can run the ball a bit and allow him to have some freedom to make big plays with his legs, we could have an offense that a lot of teams would HATE to play against.

 

He might be.... Wilson's injury has left the door open and Fields has taken the opportunity and run with it. Still a lot of camp (and some preseason games) to go, but Fields is at least keeping a foot in the door knowing that a really strong rest of camp could mean he's the starter on opening day.

 

Or this year. It should be better statistically, and the QB play may be better, but it may not produce more wins.

 

The schedule is too tough to expect more wins, but with the expected better QB play they should contend for a playoff spot still.

 

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