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Kaboly: Camp winners and losers

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jun 17, 2024.

  1. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    also,
    doesn't help if the defense makes a play for a turnover in the red zone
    all 11 do a 90+ yard sprint to the end zone to do a choreographed celebration
    continue this celebration to the sidelines
    offense goes out to the pitch as the defense keeps celebrating
    and Wilson Fields Fumbles
     
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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    10 last season. Running QB’s are going to fumble. Josh Allen fumbles a ton, don’t think many of us would complain if Fields elevated the rest of his game like Allens who also had accuracy trouble at one point.

    Also, Wilson fumbled 10 times last season. So get used to that. Wilson likes to be on the move.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree so far on Fields, but if....if....If...R. Wilson has some juice left, and is trying to prove something...we will be better .
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Dude for Fields that's 10 times in 13 games.....also He has 38 fumbles in 38 starts.....that's freaking crazy......no .....I mean No player in the NFL keeps a job with a fumble a game average.
     
  5. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    book mark this and then let's revisit :cool: I think we will be right. Big men 'look' slower, but you can't convince arguers otherwise
     
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  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Most of the best TEs don't resemble wrs in their flow. Gronk, andrews, kelce, the list goes on, they all are sort of rumbling style when running routes. Many get open by pushing off of using their bigger bodies to shield defenders away from the catch.:cool:
     
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  7. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    so did that monster kid that used to play in SD, w/ Rivers, name escaping me....
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s only 2 less games than Wilson :shrug:

    He’s shown improvement, I don’t recall the exact number but he turned it over very little in the last 6 games of the season.

    Edit: I looked it up, it was interceptions I was recalling that he cleaned up, 1 pick in 5 games down the stretch.
     
  9. Thor

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    Antonio Gates. He was the Travis Kelce of fantasy TEs back in his day.
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Nobody expects Trice to be a starter, fans want to see him be in the CB rotation.
     
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  11. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Russ is a declining old QB and Fields has never been good and is inaccurate and inconsistent. People actually think these guys are good???

    If Russ can play efficiently and not turn the ball over and take a ton of sacks he could game manage us to a 9 or 10 win season. Yippee
     
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  12. Steel the Win on Sunday

    Steel the Win on Sunday Well-Known Member

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    But let's blame Tomlin?
     
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  13. Steel the Win on Sunday

    Steel the Win on Sunday Well-Known Member

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    I would have to look it up, but how many targets did he even have last year? It has been well documented that Kenny couldn't see the field. Maybe a savvy vet like Russ can find him, at least as an outlet when plays break down.
     
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  14. Thor

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    Washington was targeted 10 times. Went 7/61, no TDs, 4 1st downs.
     
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  15. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    1st You are comparing Fields to one year of Wilson....., and 2nd....It's even worse if You add ints....38 fumbles in 38 starts, and then add the ints makes me want to throw up. LoL. Name Me one player that can average a fumble a game their whole career , and still has a job???..., and again that's not even adding the ints.
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yes, I’m comparing their most recent seasons together. Why do Wilsons 10 fumbles not count? He’s older, likes running out of the pocket, he’s going to be prone to having more turnovers at this stage of his career. If he does that again this year will you be saying it’s ok because he didnt fumble that much 3 years ago?

    Josh Allen still has a job.
     
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  17. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to say, wilson and fields together couldn’t carry Josh Allens jockstrap. I understand the comparison of fumbles but these 2 we got suck. End of story. Not sold at all on these 2, hopefully they prove me wrong. Im most likely putting money on the under for the season. Brutal back half of schedule . Plus Russ will be all hollywood doing hard knocks.
    Ill edit before its said. Wilson won a superbowl and Allen hasnt.
     
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  18. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    People tend to forget that Brian Daboll ended up working wonders for Josh Allen. Yes, nabbing the likes of Stefon Diggs and Allen's own improvements were also influential in Josh's development but Daboll had just as much influence and impact on Allen as the other two factors. Allen would end up becoming the Josh Allen we know today; a massive PITA who is one of the top three QBs in all of Football.


    Granted, Tom Arth is no Brian Daboll but he did work with one of the more highly touted QBs in the game currently in Justin Herbert. Herbert's biggest flaws coming out of Oregon were his mechanical woes and processing abilities as the Chargers Pass Game Specialist. Here is a bit more below...


    https://x.com/ByJoshCarney/status/1755729610442961171
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    Fields seems ecstatic to work with Arth. Here is hoping Arth and Arthur Smith can turn Fields around.
     
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  19. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Odd...


    Cannot get the tweets to show up just using the URL anymore. :hmm:


    Anyone have a workaround regarding this issue?
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don’t think anyone wants this version of Fields. The hope is he corrects the flaws in his game and elevates his level of play.

    I hope that if Wilson is struggling they don’t wait too long to switch to Fields, I’d rather they find out if they should draft a QB next year or not.
     
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  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Tom Arth also learned under Manning, said Manning would put him through the wringer testing his knowledge and preparedness. Learned a lot from him.

    As for the links, just change x.com to twitter.com in the link and it will work.
     
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  22. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Gotcha!!


    Thanks man!! 'Ppreciate it! :drinks:
     
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  23. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  24. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Why ....because everyone can have a bad season....which You are cherry picking.
    I'm not cherry picking when I say Fields averages a fumble a game, and that's not counting his ints.....38 starts as a Qb.....38 fumbles.
    1. You know I'm not a fan of Josh Allen so You just help why I think He's not good, but even after all that ...59 fumbles in 93 starts is not a fumble a game, or on par with Fields 38 fumbles in 38 starts.
     
  25. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    It's no secret I'm not a fan of Josh Allen....I hate that style of play in a Qb, but with all that said....the fumbles aren't comparable......Josh Allen has 59 fumbles in 93 starts.....Fields has 38 fumbles in 38 starts. Also
    Wilson has been to two SBs. Allen has not been to one.
     

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