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The Bus Driver's Mock 1.0

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by The Bus Driver, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. The Bus Driver

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    Okay, I've only been looking into draft-type research for a few weeks, but have 16 weeks of evidence of what I think this team needs to address.
    Take this late January mock for what it's worth....which is close to nothing.

    Rd 1.) Alec Ogletree (ILB). I'm ignoring speculation that we will move Harrison inside, and would like to see Ogletree and Spence duke it out to play next to Timmons (who I think is primed for an all-pro like season this year)

    Rd 2.) Alex Okafor (DE/OLB)...kind of a hybrid guy who's position will depend on what kind of defense drafts him. Considered 1st round talent, he slips because his skills may not transition immediately to the NFL game with the lack of position "identity" they say. I trust LeBeau.

    Rd 3.) Baccari Rambo (S).... or Aaron Dobson (WR) once the assumed departure of Wallace actually happens. Until then, Rambo.

    Rd 4.) Quinton Patton (WR) or Johnathan Cyprien (S)...obviously looking for the opposite of the choices from round 3...HOWEVER 2 young, athletic safeties in back to back rounds would not be something I'd rule out or be upset about...would finally show Mundy the door. Obviously back to back WR's would be laughable and completely implausible so I'm not in anyway implying that with the choices here.

    Rd. 5.) Kenjon Barner (RB) or Mike Gillislee (RB)- Love the way both of these guys run. If our line stays healthy, they will make any back we draft at this point look good alongside Dwyer/Redman. So that being said, I also wouldn't be opposed to holding off on an RB. If somebody like Stepfan Taylor or Montee Ball were to fall this deep, we'd strongly have to consider both of those guys even in the 4th.

    Rd 6.) Zac Dysert (QB out of Miami OH)- Its time for some youth to back up Ben, and lets keep the Redhawk pipeline alive. As more comes out about these QB's, I think Collin Klein and EJ Manual will be names to consider also if we are thinking about drafting our backup in 2013. I don't LOVE the idea, but think the longer we wait, the more risk we create. I don't think any of these guys will be the heir to Big Ben's throne, but thats not what we need them to be here in the 6th

    Rd 7.) Jake Stoneburner (TE)- Finally let my Buckeye bias slip in here. Stoney is an athletic H-back type who could crack the 53-man roster in Heath's absence. He was juggled back and forth from WR to TE at OSU and was compared to Hernandez coming out of HS. Great hands and can stretch the field down the seams (check the Penn St TD from this year on Youtube).
     
  2. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    Not bad...... i like ogletree, but i think okafor's gone before we pick in the 2nd....wouldn't mind seeing rambo either, but i believe robert golden will handle the fs spot well.... in either case, a little competition never hurt anyone...i really like cyprien and hope he stays under the radar enough for us to grab him with a mid rd. pick.....gillislee would look good in our offense, and stepfan taylor would probably start for us...... i've seen most experts placing dysert in the 2nd or 3rd, but i'm personally hoping we bring back jerrod johnson...wouldn't mind if we took a look at cooper taylor from richmond in the 7th......also, you might want to alot for a comp pick in the 4th or 5th.... i'm pretty sure we'll get one for willie gay.
     
  3. freakfontana

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    i prefer option one rambo and patton , not bad
     
  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    patton is a second rounder and may move up to the first after the sr.bowl. he's been all the rave of practice there.

    we need a SS i think more then a FS but elam can play both. i like cyprien too. he's also looking good in front of all the scouts at the sr.bowl practices. jahleel addae is another ss that is under the radar. i'd have no problem if they decided to take two safeties out of this group. there is some talent here and we will very soon need it. we kept 5 last year with troy's troubles and used them all. tony jefferson isn't to bad at FS either.

    i wouldn't complain if we took ogletree in the first if he's there. elam is still my first pick though.:cool:
     
  5. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Not bad at all Bus driver,I do not care for Rambo,Afraid to tackle
    lacy in sec championship game.I am thinking
    Elam,(okafor) Texas guys scare me?
     
  6. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

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    I like it overall. I'm not big on Okafor just because I think he's max'd out physically. I'd take Hamilton (WR) in the 2nd and Buchanon (OLB) in the 4th.. I'm hopeful Rambo makes it to our 3rd, he's in no way shy of contact. He knocked himself out seperating the ball from a 'Bama receiver late in that game and it wasn't the only time he broke up a pass in that fashion against the Tide.
     
  7. steel1031

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    the only thing i worry about with rambo is will we pull the trigger on a guy with character issues. he missed the first four games of the year cause he was suspended
     
  8. mac daddyo

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    i'm still of the thinking of a SS and a FS out of this draft. rambo creates turnovers. so does phillip thomas. elam has some troy in him around the LOS, he can get in the backfield and reek havoc on run plays and he can cover downfield. i still have no problem with him as our #1 pick.

    help over the top has made our corners better. we can't rely on troy to be there anymore and clark is getting near the end. i doubt we sign him after next year to more then maybe a year at a time if that. we need these guys in here this year so they can take over in 2014, but they have enough game to play as rooks if needed. if the past is any indication, it will be needed.:cool:
     
  9. numbah58

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    I hope the FO is careful where they draw the line in the sand.. There's alot of good football players that would need to be scratched off the board.. His teammate Ogletree for one..
     
  10. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i was thinking the same thing 58. he was suspended too.:cool:
     
  11. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    rambo failed a drug test. i thnk ogletree was something different i think. i may be wrong. mac i have a question. if you like elam and think he is a good saftey, you dont like him at 17. no way he falls to us in second and we cant find a trading partner to go down. why not take him?
     
  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i do like him at 17 and he's always been my #1 pick. i just said i wouldn't complain about ogeltree if we took him. i'd love elam at 17 though. i think that would shore up the defense very well in the secondary and give us a young playmaker back there again. as i said he's got a little of what troy does in him around the line.:cool:
     
  13. steel1031

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    oh ok. i got ya. how do u feel about drafting two safties cause i see tat as a major need. especially since rookies hardly ever start.lol
     
  14. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

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    They both failed drug tests.. I agree with mac that Elam's a good player but if we can't trade back we'd be reaching for a guy at a position with excellent depth in the draft.. Not a good philosophy IMO.
     
  15. steel1031

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    normally i would agree. i do hink this saftey class is deep but reid and elam r a notch above the rest i believe. the kid fron texas is good and will probably bethe first saftey taken. i just think he is not that good incoverage.
     
  16. The Bus Driver

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    Ya I wouldn't be upset with drafting two safeties as long as it made since round wise. (rd 1-5, 2-5, 3-6). Is Will Allen still under contract? I like him better than Mundy, and I think that is the consensus. Anything short of bringing Anthony Smith back would help with our two studs getting up there in age and becoming increasingly fragile.

    Ogletree is a powerful dude and would love to see him develop next to Timmons and show signs early on of the vaunted Bowman-Willis middle in San Fran.

    What do you guys think about the QB suggestion? Do we keep delaying the inevitable, do we REACH, or see if somebody like Dysert falls into our lap in rounds 5-6. As Patrol mentioned, we should get a compensatory pick for Big Play Willie Gay, which always offers some flexibility.
     
  17. steel1031

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    Will allen is a free agent and will be 31. I read somewhere he wont be back. The qb situation has to be addresses this year.imo i hope the kid from duke renfree falls to around 5 or 6. I would hate to reach for one in an early round. I hadnt looked at free agent qbs
     
  18. numbah58

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    I like Landry Jones and Tyler Bray on the 2nd day of the draft. Otherwise, I'd be waiting until 2014 when the QB class will be much deeper IMO.
     
  19. strummerfan

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    There's a pretty good chance Renfree is available as an undrafted free agent.
     
  20. steel1031

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    tyler bray is an idiot. this kid showed up his coaches, ignored teammates, and had multiple run ins with law in his three years here. i will be very dissapointed if we draft him. his mechanics stink as well. if there had not been a coaching change he would have stayed. he is not ready
     
  21. numbah58

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    Don't you hate all of the WR's that attended Tennessee too? Hunter, Patterson and Rodgers are all talented receivers that bring different talents to the equation.. Bray might be an idiot for all I know, certain media outlets are implying it, but until you give me a player from Tennessee that you "like" I'll take it with a grain of salt.
     
  22. steel1031

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    i watch tenn every week. i am close to the program having family members and classmates play there for many years. rivera the te will be a solid pro as will dallas thomas the lt. hunter is talented but he has already had an acl and he has trouble catching the ball if anyone is within two yards of him. patterson well not to be mean but there is a reason he went to jr college first. he had trouble learning the playbook. he took plays off and has issues with coachs trying to coach him. rodgers ad so manychances to make it here its pitiful. dooley after three screw ups had no choice but to let him go. they r all talented but they r spoiled. had their way to long. dooley had to put up with it cause he was trying to keep his job. when bray threw a td against troy he walked off the field with his hands in the air and wouldnt even talk to the coaches. all because they called a running play
     
  23. numbah58

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    Good info here.. It seems as though Bray is just immature.. Is that your take as well? As far as the WR's, I like Hunter.. He's got the attributes you look for in a #1.. Not a fan of Patterson's style, too much running side to side and even backwards at times after the catch.. The shame of it is that Rodgers probably has more natural talent than either Hunter or Patterson but like you said, he's had alot of chances.
     
  24. steel1031

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    i think bray is immature. i do agree with you hunter is a possible number one. he is also a possible limas sweed. i dont think he should be drafted in the first or second but probably will. not sure when our second pick is i think 47,48 or something. if he falls to third for some reason maybe take a chance. i am no scout. he may end up being a hall of famer but right now i dont see it. as for bray he makes alot of throws that make u say damn this kid can play. then he makes some that make you say damn this kid sucks azz.
     
  25. mac daddyo

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    i agree they are a notch above the rest and the most ready to step in if need be. elam is only a jr. and reading what his coaches say about how he did everything they asked of him, whether it was playing up at the line or dropping in to coverage or manning up on slot receivers. plus watching him i saw what they were talking about. he's not flashy but does his job well. we saw how safety play can hurt us or help us last year. will allen did play well, but the norm for him his whole career is injury riddled and missing alot of games. we already have that.


    as far as bray, i'm not a big fan. as far as the tenn. receivers, i'm not a giant fan. there should have been more wins with that type of talent all around. something was amiss there. i was thinking e.j.manuel would drop, but he's opened eyes at the sr. bowl.

    i wouldn't mind colin klien and match him up with his go to receiver here. as i said before , as a backup i want a guy that can run as well as throw to help move the chains. guys like bray and glennon, who i like alot but they are strictly pocket passers. you have to keep them squeaky clean for them to be effective.

    i really wouldn't mind derek anderson and klien as the backups to ben for this year.:cool:
     

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