Cut Ben some slack on the film study

IMHO, if Ben watched and researched just HALF the film that Manning(s) both do, Brady and Rodgers who are all notorious for film study (kinda like gym rats in hoops), the Steelers would have at least one more Super Bowl win and perhaps at least two more SB appearances. I don't care what anyone says, Ben doesn't give care "enough"!!!!!!!!

 

I wonder if the same could be applied to our offensive line...if only they did more film study...

 

I really think some of it has to due with these young receivers always getting in his hear wanting the ball, especially Wallace, who is trying to get a contract.

Ben has to stop being a *itch and put an end to that B.S.

 

How do you know how much film he studies...because some message board rat said so?

 

Here is what I hope happens. Ben grows up now that he has a new son. It does change people. Maybe this wil bring him a bit more down to earth and he will realize what gifts he truely has. He has the physical tools to be the best there ever was but he needs to focus more on making that happen.

In the past he believed it was destine to happen.

 

i have no clue how film study Ben does, or Peyton does or Brady does. For all I know Ben studies film as much as anyone in the game.

But what I do know from watching is that Manning/Brady seem to know their offensive systems to the last detail, and they operate within that system. On the other hand, Ben abandons his system and reverts to sand lot when things break down.

Maybe, this is due to lack of film study, though I doubt it. It may be Ben just falling back to where he's comfortable or playing to his natural strengths. Maybe Ben isn't as smart as those other two guys and film study doesn't sink in. I don't know.

But I do think that as he ages and his raw skills diminish Ben will need to be a better student of the game, or his career will end will come sooner than later.

 

It's not that difficult to figure out gang. Watch Ben on the sidelines and watch Peyton and Brady as well. Ben stands there and watches the game just like the rest of us do in the stands or at home (or bar, etc) while I see Brady and Manning studying photos of the D, going over things with their OC, huddling up with their receivers, etc. Maybe i'm always missing the shot of this or coincidentally the cameras always miss showing Ben when he does this but I don't see it.

And stop trying to compare 1 or 2 plays of Mannings to Ben and act like that's proof enough that Ben doesn't need to work as hard as Peyton or Brady because they get the same results. There's a reason those guys are considered elite QB's without a single question while there's always debate whether or not Ben is considered elite. I happen to think Ben IS an elite QB but sorry folks he's not in the same category as Brady and Peyton. If those two didn't win a single SB i'd say they still get into the HOF. If Ben didn't win any SB's I highly doubt he gets in. I personally think Ben has a lot more in him and could be ranked right there with Rodgers, Manning and Brady if he studied and worked as hard as they do.

And i don't think it's unknown that Ben isn't a student of the game and not a heavy film studier. I think even his BFF Arians pretty much said as much.

 

cut ben slack in film study ? ben cuts so much out in film study he prolly only views his highlites which are diminishing. the filmroom floor is covered in edited game film.

 

in the 6th one down Ben doesn't look to happy to get the picks prolly not a goodd highlite

 

prove it...

 

I really believe the same can be said about the entire team. I posted recently that our team needs to get smarter next year and part of that comes from being more studious in the film room. THIS IS ALL ON THE COACHES.

The only exception may be the defensive backs who were coached by one of the most cerebral players ever to wear a Steelers uniform, Carnell Lake. I think their level of play really improved this year under Lake's tutelage. Their technique was sound and they didn't make the mental errors that seemed to plague the rest of the team.

 

Quit trying to change Ben and Let him do what he do baby!
It's human to tweak things but some things are best left alone, in their purest form. We try to change non traditional QBs cuz we know better (i.e Kordell Stewart), but just let em be.

I don't want him thinking too much (LOL) out there. I want him running amok sandlot and being a nightmare for Ds.
The last couple years we have been over thinking this thing and in turn he is over thinking the position.
Get back to what got you there in the 1st place. He is the key to our success, let him be himself.

 

Well I just think people are saying this in the spirit of they want him to be "himself" for a lot longer than he might if he keeps taking so many hits.

 

The only problem with that is that as Ben gets older and his body continues to wear down, this style of play will not be as effective. If he wants to prolong his career, he needs to stop being intellectually lazy!

 

If Ben keeps playing his game our offense won't improve and we'll be missing the playoffs a lot.

 

Really, how many playoffs have we missed w/ Ben @ the helm?

 

The only one that matters is the one we missed this year because Ben threw two crucial interceptions in two critical games late in the season. I know we have short memories but welcome to the NFL. Ben's physical prowess is waning and if he doesn't learn the importance of film study and game prep AND how to respond to coaching the last few seasons of his career will be more of the same underperformance that we saw this year.

 

The thing about Ben is that he's shown the ability to play at a high level without running around playing sandlot. There are times when he looked like he was prepared to play and times when he looked like he just showed up to play.

 

Of course the bronco fans thought that with peyton they were going to the superbowl, but actualy peyton has a losing record in cold weather below 40 degrees, and his playoff record for wins is lower than flaccos, ouch: All that said, he did put up 35 points enough points to win 80% of the time in this league, so this loss cant all be blamed all on him, the defense gets to share in the blame as well.....

 

Film study issue has to do with him taking less hits.

Manning and Brady will not only audible to new plays, which Ben does do, but they are also are good at identifying defenses through motion and different pre-snap reads, and they often shift protections to make sure plays they do call work and also keep their Jersey's clean at the same time.

 

He threw a pick 6 though too.