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Russell Wilson

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Feb 20, 2024.

  1. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    To hear Khan speak at combine, he said KFP is the man , and softly said there will be a competition.
     
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  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Happy Holidays Yinz Jagoffs

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    $1,080,000 in 2023

    $5,080,00 in 2022

    $5M now sounds about right
     
  3. Brice

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    LOL... You really think the Steelers would have ever benched Ben? That is probably the only thing that could have gotten Tomlin fired.


    And, I still say you need to throw everything away that happened to Mason in 2019 after the Baltimore hit. The Steelers staff would have been fined out the ying-yang in today's NFL for rushing him back onto the field.
     
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  4. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    But don't take his red swing line stapler or he'll burn the building down.
     
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  5. Brice

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  6. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Mason Rudolph = Landry Jones 2.0
     
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  7. Brice

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    If you watch this video he points out that the final day to make a decision on Russel is March 17th. So on March 18th the rest of the league will know if Russell Wilson is cut from the Broncos and a Free agent eligible to sign a deal for the league minimum, since Denver is paying him $39 million minus whatever his new team pays him.

    So, on March 14th at 4PM free agency begins, should the Steelers hold off on signing any Free Agent QBs, until they know the status of Russell Wilson on March 18th? We signed 5 free agents last year in the first week, and the previous year the Steelers signed Mitch on Day 1. Should we wait to sign Mason until after March 18th?

    I watched a lot of Bronco games last year, and Wilson still has that freaky arm strength he was known for in Seattle.
     
  8. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  9. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure why people assume Wilson is going to be cheap just because he money coming from the Broncos. If there is competition from other teams to get him, that will drive the price up.
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    No, they wouldn't. That statement is wrong on many levels. The main reason you are wrong is that the league's concussion rules have no teeth. The last I looked, it took three violations before he league will fine a team at all, and even then it isn't an exorbitant fine.

    More importantly, he wasn't rushed back. People look at 2019 and see he only missed one game, but there were 22 days between the injury against Baltimore and his return against the Dolphins. He wasn't great in his first three games back, but if you toss out the outlier against a terrible Bengals defense, it was pretty much in line with how he played before the concussion. His play cratered in the loss to the Browns in the rematch, even with Garrett unable to play due to his suspension. When the poor play continued the following week against the Bengals, they benched him.

    Pickett returned from concussions twice faster than that, but nobody wants to talk about that affecting his play. Cue some armchair fake neurologist talking out of the wrong end of their anatomy and trying to tell us how much worse Rudolph's concussion was even though they have no Earthly way of knowing that.
     
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  11. Brice

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    You are 100% wrong on this. There is no price. There will be no bidding war as the cost to bring Russell in is paid by the Broncos, the team getting Russell is just paying Denver any money they offer Russell. Why would Russell want Denver to get any more than league minimum?
    NFL: Russell Wilson expected to sign with next team at league minimum (usatoday.com)
    Long story short, Denver will be paying Wilson a lot in 2024, and that will make him an attractive option for other teams. Because he’s already being paid by the Broncos in 2024, Wilson is expected to sign with his next team for (or near) the league minimum ($1.21 million).

    Wilson's $37 million salary for 2025 guarantees on March 17 of this year if he's still on the roster.


    If the Steelers do not sign a QB in the first week of free agency, I see the Steelers going after Wilson on March 17th.

    Russell will make $35 million this year; if he sits at home he makes $35 million, if the Steelers sign him to a 1 year deal worth $1.2 million he makes $35 million, if Atlanta signs him to a $10 million deal he makes $35 million. As the article states about his cap cost to his new team will be $1.2 million.
     
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  12. Brice

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    LOL. I do believe as the article says teams are not interested in trading for Russell.

    I think it is a completely different question if teams are interested in picking up free agent Russell Wilson for $1.2 million. But, Yes, the Steelers are not interested in trading for Russell Wilson and his $85 million guaranteed contract.
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    I don't see anything in that article clearly backing up the notion that the Broncos are getting that money. He may sign cheap, but if you want to make the claim that the money he gets from his new team somehow goes to the Broncos, you need a better source with a clearer explanation to support your claim.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    The claim is they aren't interested in signing him, not that they aren't interested in trading for him. I'm not reading every blogger's Tweet here, but the original reporting in The Athletic is that the Steelers aren't interested in signing him if the Broncos cut him loose. This is why you need to look for better sources before you post.
     
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  15. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Could somebody tell me why Russell Wilson would be interested in coming to PGH?
    He has been on the west coast most of his playing career, his wife is involved in the entertainment
    industry The Steelers are not going to pay him what he thinks he is worth. Invest in a late round flier
    see if we can find some luck there.
     
  16. Brice

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    Try Google.
    Russell Wilson's next contract will reportedly be for NFL minimum (givemesport.com)

    Wilson's contract with the Broncos is somewhat peculiar as the team will owe him $39 million upon releasing him, but that figure will shrink in concordance with Wilson's next contract. For example, if Wilson receives a one-year, $30 million contract in free agency, the Broncos will be on the hook for $9 million.

    As for Wilson, he should have no problem finding a new home, especially if he does take the league minimum from his next team. Remember, no matter what salary his new team gives him, he'll make $39 million next season from the Broncos and his new team combined. He has no real incentive to torch his new organization's cap space by demanding a $20+ million salary next season.


    With teams like the Atlanta Falcons and Pittsburgh Steelers reportedly in the market for veteran competition for their underwhelming young starters, Wilson could prove to be a cost-effective option for a team desperate for a starting quarterback in 2024.
     
  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Happy Holidays Yinz Jagoffs

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    And Bobby Jones is batting .457 in the seventh inning when there is one out and men on first and third and there is a left hand pitcher

    Otherwise he is a .135 hitter but lets throw everything else away
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    That would apply to the 2024 season. What about years after that? A creative team that wants to make sure it gets him can find a way to pay him more, even if that comes after the 2024 season.

    You may be right about the contract situation for 2024, but I still haven't seen you post a link to a trustworthy source.

    Given your silence, I assume you are conceding that you were wrong in your claim that we should ignore Rudolph's failings in 2019 because the team rushed him back from his concussion. You were also wrong in your claim that the article asserted only that the Steelers weren't interested in trading for Wilson, but might sign him. The assertion in the article is that they aren't interested in signing him. Maybe some clickbait nonsense you found claimed otherwise, but here is the relevant passage from the article on The Athletic which seems to be the source for all the clickbait sites you like.

    The Steelers are not interested in signing Wilson in the likely event he’s released by the Denver Broncos, a source familiar with the coaching staff’s feelings on the quarterback at this stage of his career told The Athletic.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Man I have to say that’s real tempting. See if Wilson can thrive in Smiths system, if he does, great, if he is washed then you replace him with Pickett who will have gained more time to learn a new offense and hone his craft.
     
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  21. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    yep - that has been stated here many times. YES YES YES

    my Q is: Does Wilson have a SAY in where he goes?
    If yes, I think we have decent shot.

    He would like to WIN again and this team is pretty good, 'cept at QB
     
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  22. Steel_Elvis

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    Wilson at a dirt cheap price because of the offset language in his contract with Denver? Yes, sign me up for that lottery ticket.

    Wilson at what his market value would otherwise be? No.
     
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  23. strummerfan

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    It’s not really up to him.
     
  24. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Beat me to it! :drinks:
     
  25. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is true. Wilson can be paid veteran minimum, Broncos have to pay the 34 million guaranteed to Wilson. That being said, yes I am interested in a 1 yr deal, let KFP sit and learn.
     

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