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Market for Mason not be very warm

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Huck Finn, Feb 22, 2024.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Harris ran for 112 yards and a touchdown and the defense mauled the Ravens even after losing Watt, but you want to make it all about Rudolph.

    I think the running game had big days earlier in the season, too, but I guess you forgot about that.

    It's not bias. It is fatigue from the nonsense posted here.
     
  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You are assuming things not in evidence to try to support your dubious claim.
     
  3. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    lol

    "helping his team"

    you are delusional.

    he threw an INT in the EZ

    the DEFENSE again sucked, blew chunks, could not stop a girls team early.

    get a grip on reality, dude.

    Did Mason fumble at the 30

    just delusional, KennysMOM, that is what I am going to call you
     
  4. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    It's not my intent to make it all about Rudolph but the FACT is that the Steelers would have been sitting at home come playoff time had Mason not been inserted into the starting role when he was. There is no way, based on nearly two season of evidence, that Kenny Pickett would have gotten them into the playoffs. They needed to win all three games and they won all three games with Mason as the starter. Sure, there are legitimate criticisms of Mason, pocket awareness being one of them (he seems to stand in too long where Kenny bails too early), but he is at the top of the list when it comes to reasons the Steelers made the post season. I've been watching football for a long time and I know you have too. The difference in the offensive performance when Mason was in vs. KP and MT was profound. I don't get how people can't see that.
     
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  5. mikeyg

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    OF COURSE Mason was the difference. and the offense was profoundly more effecient

    no Mason and no playoffs.

    most numbskulls understand that - SOME here are dull.
     
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  6. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know that they are dull. There are some very intelligent board members who seem to have some sort of bias against Mason. I know he isn't perfect, but he was the primary difference maker in that offense for the stretch run of the season and his quality quarterback play is the primary reason the Steelers made the playoffs. Kenny will have an opportunity to redeem himself, but I really hope his primary competitor for QB1 is Mason.
     
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  7. mac daddyo

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    it's also just this guys view. we saw many times when kenny had a pocket and left it early. kenny was seeing ghosts at times. :cool:
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    Please show me the statistical evidence of how often defenses loaded the box in each game.

    Also, I guess you missed the stretch of strong performances by the running game in the middle of the season with Pickett at quarterback.
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    They were 7-4 with Pickett against stronger competition than what they faced in those final three games. They beat a stronger version of the Bengals earlier in the season. They could have trampled the Seahawks with Pickett. They needed a quarterback to make plays late in a low-scoring game to beat the Ravens. Are you really going to argue that Pickett hasn't shown he can do that?
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    Saw this article, knew it would lead to this debate here. I’m sure the line enjoyed having a QB stand in and allow them to make their blocks but at the same time I’m sure Pickett likes not having his head bounced off the turf like he did on the very second play of the season. This coming after two concussions previously.

    The rest of the article is laughable and if any truth to it then Pickens and DJ should be packaged for a trade and shipped out of here ASAP. You think half-assing your routes doesn’t effect the QB play. Holy **** that better not be true. Freaking children playing favorites.
     
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  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    play calling. last season in first and ten situations, on first down we attempted 15 passes on the year. :cool:
     
  12. mac daddyo

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    we also saw a qb go to the next progression before the receiver barely got off the LOS, he never looked back either. i'd be tired of running the route knowing you would never get another look after two yards. :cool:
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    Y'all argued that the running game was due to Rudolph, ignoring that they had a stretch of running the ball well with Pickett. I'm the one being objective here. I'm sorry your devotion to Rudolph can't take it.

    I never said the quarterback wasn't the leader. Keep in mind that the team voted Pickett as its only offensive captain for 2023. When you claim that Rudolph took charge, you are assuming facts not in evidence, hence the Captain Intangibles comment. It is a reference to Yankees fans who ramble on about Derek Jeter's great leadership qualities even though there is no actual evidence to support their claims.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

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  15. Blast Furnace

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    Would trade your ass, too.

    Canadas genius play design had receivers running into each other, I’m sure the timing was all effed up as well.

    The one thing people like to ignore is Rudolph stepped in 4 weeks removed from Canada. The guy all of Pittsburgh was screaming for to be fired.
     
  16. mac daddyo

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    typical. cut the wrong part of the team mike. :smiley1::cool:
     
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  17. Formerscribe

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    No, I'm not. You are having a reading comprehension problem. Your claim was that Rudolph took charge of the team, but that is an assumption. The quarterback should be the leader, but that doesn't mean Rudolph led in some way that Pickett didn't. It's possible, but you don't have evidence to back it up.
     
  18. Karl

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    Mason unveils new uniform.
    OIP.jpg

    I could probably go back to some old posts and probably see many of the same "Mason is da Man" folks and see "Git ridda da bum" posts.

    Mason came off the bench and did what a Veteran Backup is expected to do.
    He DID NOT play Mahomes Level.., in fact he was probably the worst QB in the AFC playoffs.
    The 3 very average games he played, were nothing special.. I am glad he won them.
    But his play doesn't warrant all this Franchise QB talk.
    His play simply showed that we haven't been getting the most from that position. It's that simple.
    There is no team sitting there salivating over the idea Pittsburgh might let him walk in Free Agency. (someone probably will give him a shot though as a backup)

    Mason Rudolph does not project to step in a win 13 games for us. He does not project to be a solution.
    He does project as a possible backup that can win a game if called upon.
    It is not a good thing if they have competition between Mason and Kenny and Mason wins.
    I don't see a Franchise QB on this roster. I'm not sure I see one in this offseason barring some sort of crazy string of events.
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    Pickett definitely needs to take more chances. That is where coaching is a factor. Canada and Sullivan did a poor job with Pickett. So did Tomlin. They put so much focus on avoiding turnovers that they took his aggressiveness away. Maybe that can be fixed. Maybe not. If not, he's going to end up a backup.
     
  20. Formerscribe

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    No, I'm not. I'm not buying into the notion that Rudolph did anything that Pickett hadn't done as a leader. Remember, Rudolph didn't take over for Pickett. He took over for Trubisky.
     
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  21. Formerscribe

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    This is fair, though I still think there is a chance they can get much better production out of Pickett. That's far from a sure thing.

    Props for using Alex Ross art.
     
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  22. Philofarnsworth79

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    I'm pretty sure they can't give those Pickett jerseys away so what's your point??? Oh yeah,,, you don't have one...
     
  23. Karl

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    Agree and thanks... lol

    No doubt Kenny has to turn it up quite a few notches.
    Some of this nonsense painting Him as a Heath Schuler and painting Mason as, well Superman is bizarre at best.
    One model is Kenny, Mason, a draft pick QB and a FA battling it out.

    I do think Kenny can beat Mason in 1:1
    But it's like a battler to be second best.

    If they could somehow, land Penix or' maybe McCarthy... all bets are off.

    *Note: For me McCarthy is a risk, but he has seemed to rise in opinion.
    I'm not sold yet, but I do recognize some other feedback..
     
  24. Karl

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    Can you knock off the caustic crap.
    So far, you've just been yelling something about Mason being something special after 6 years.
    No real input, just "you're opinion sucks and mine is better."
    Diagram a play or something meaningful.

    Not to make you feel awkward.... Kenney's jersey sells for $174, Mason's doesn't even seem to be on the team site, but I did find a nice one for $75.
     
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  25. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    Just more excuses,,, they magically figured it out with Rudolph & you really dont think Rudolphs leadership abilities & skill managing an offense had anything to do with it... It's just circles with you so you don't have to admit the obvious,,, it's Canada, it's the receivers , it's the line,,,, or MAYBE,,,just maybe,,, you're wrong about Rudolph... is that even possible in your opinion??? That u could be wrong???
     
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