Dumbest Article I've read in a while

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...afting-qb-in-first-round?campaign=Twitter_atl

Ben is not our problem. Ben is one of our few great building blocks... and even if this was the least bit true, this is a TERRIBLE class to grab a QB in the first. The only guy I'm much of a fan of is Tyler Bray. If he was there in the 3rd I'd so go for it.

 

Wow, that is simply amazing. Talk about media spin in full effect.

He's taking Kevin Colbert saying: "We won't close the door on any position in any round" as implying that Pittsburgh could take a QB in rd 1. I guess technically he's right since Colbert did explicitly say that they would not take a QB in rd1, but talk about stretching someones words. Sometimes I think journalists are the Anit-Christ.

 

Colber said " we are not married to anyone" and he said they would NOT rule out taking a QB in rd 1. In reality he saying everyone is to blame and a roster shake-up is needed to fix an 8-8 season and no-one, no-one is exempt from being replaced.

If the right QB is at the right spot in rd 1 they'll make that pick. Imagine if either of the top 2 QBs falls to 17 or better yet we trade back to the twenties and one falls there.

I truly believe the Steelers will more than in the past draft the BPA REGARDLESS of Position or team need.

Cajun-

 

let me say what colbert really wanted to say

"no way in hell we are taking a qb in the 1st rd

 

All I can simply say is wow...

 

One thing I worry about is how Ben's shoulder is, he has had a multiple shoulder sprains...

Manning against the Ravens looked like his arm was completely shot for the deep ball, and it makes a team one dimensional.

If Ben has some long term affects from it, I can see the FO being worried....

 

I love Ben, he's my favorite player, probably in all of Steelers history, and it will break my heart when he hangs up his cleats (hopefully he'll still be a Steeler, its too much to bear thinking of him in another uniform). However, the realilty is that Ben is going to be 31 this year and has suffered more than his fair share of injuries. We do need a young solid backup that can learn and eventually take over. If it's this year and it's in the first round, so be it.

 

Ben is getting up there and is beat up, now is the time to draft the future , by the time the kid is ready Ben will be over and done with, so I say get the best one available, we need a future QB more than anything on Defense, maybe next years draft will be better for the D

 

well lets face it we need 2 backups anyway. getting a good backup isn't a bad thing as ben ages. if he then can become the man when ben is in his last year or two, why not? if he's good enough, i hope he goes on to break all of bens and bradshaws records. so be it. i am a steeler fan not just the current players. that guy would be a steeler and current player too.

 

I agree. We don't want another Dennis Dixon situation. Or Cliff Stoudt. And I can't see us picking a stud QB to "develop", because we have more glaring needs.

 

Every time someone says this I make the same post, but it drives me nuts so I have to.

* First off, we're not a good enough team to have the luxury of wasting a first round pick on a backup QB.

* This is a TERRIBLE draft for quarterbacks. I wouldn't even want the consensus number 1 Geno Smith at our pick at #17.

* This idea of draft a guy to groom to be Ben's backup is ridiculous. Brett Favre got his as much as Ben and he played till he was 40. Carson Palmer stinks and he's still starting at 33 years old. Do you hear anyone talking about Eli Manning or Phillip Rivers' replacements? Ben is not that old. He could realistically play 5 more years of high level football, especially since the FO is showing they want to revamp and invest in the OL.

* I HATE the idea people talk about taking a 3rd round QB to groom as Ben's replacement. To win in the NFL you have to have a franchise QB, and you don't get franchise QBs after the first round. You can find an Andy Dalton-like mediocre QB, but not a guy who's going to carry a team. We should wait until we think Ben has 1 season left in him and make a move for a franchise cornerstone. Whether or not RG3 is a special player, I love that the Redskins saw they needed to make a move for someone like him, and had the balls to do it.

It's great to have a Favre/Rodgers situation but that rarely happens. And the only reason that DID happen was Favre was so wishy-washy on retirement.

 

I really don't think it's that dumb. Ben has taken a beating throughout his career and has missed significant time in multiple seasons due to injury. Ben admitted himself he doesn't like to study film, he's not a cerebral QB by any stretch. Ben has built a career on making plays when the original play call breaks down. As Ben ages, he will lose the ability to do this effectively. I don't think it's dumb at all to be thinking about the next Steeler QB. What if Matt Barkley falls to the second round? Sitting behind a proven starter for 3 years would be an ideal situation for somebody like him who isn't ready to come in and start right away.

 

Hey, it's a realistic scenario the way Ben plays the game. We've seen him start to miss multiple games due to injury over the last few years. Favre didn't miss games until very late in his career and I don't think Elway was prone to miss games. Maybe Ben can play 5 more years and if we drafted somebody like Barkley and things are going well in 3 years with Ben, we've got some trade value there. Would you consider taking a flier on Barkley if he falls to the second round?

 

EXactly correct.. if/when its time for bens replacement we Take him on rd 1 and trade up to get the best if we have to to get a luck or rg3 or someone like that... not rd 3 ... eyah i know brady was a 6th round and thats a one in a million happening ...

HINES

 

Tom Brady? Brett Favre? Joe Montana? These are arguably the 3 best QBs of all time, and none were first rounders.

 

You got somebody in mind?

 

and this might be the dumbest post ive seen in a while....

ben is not getting up there he is 30 years old. This team has all the parts to win 2 more super bowls while ben is here....taking a qb in round 1 would be the biggest waste of a pick and will never happen..


We need a pass rushing OLB, a future ILB, Safety Depth, D-Line depth, Wr depth WAAAAAYYYYYYY more than drafting a future QB..

Thank goodness you are not the GM

 

olb worilds..ILB spence, saftey, brown, allen,,,,, WR... we have a million receivers.. who cares if wallace goes the guy is a flake, i'd rather have cotchery and plax.. if this draft sucks for future qb's then i say wait for that clemmons guy who came back on LSU.

for the ones saying favre made it to 40,,how many seasons did he live on pain killers?

 

Did you really just name 3 Quarterbacks out of thousands? Give me a break dude. Lets look at a few drafts, I'm starting with 2009 because it's been long enough to actually evaluate... I'll bold the ones I consider to be a "franchise QB" or let's even be generous and just say above-average QBs.

2009
1.1 - Matthew Stafford
1.5 - Mark Sanchez
1.17 - Josh Freeman
2.44 - Pat White
4.101 - Stephen McGee
5.151 - Rhett Bomar
5.171 - Nate Davis
6.174 - Tom Brandstater
6.178 - Mike Teel
6.196 - Keith Null
6.201 - Curtis Painter

2008
1.3 - Matt Ryan
1.18 - Joe Flacco
2 - Brian Brohm
2 - Chad Henne
3 - Kevin O'Connell
5 - John David Booty
5 - Dennis Dixon
5 - Josh Johnson
5 - Eric Ainge
6 - Colt Brennen
6 - Andre Woodson
7 - Matt Flynn
7 - Alex Brink

2007
1.1 - JaMarcus Russell
1.22 - Brady Quinn
2 - Kevin Kolb
2 - John Beck
2 - Drew Stanton
3 - Trent Edwards
3 - Isiah Stanback
5 - Jeff Rowe
5 - Troy Smith
6 - Jordan Palmer
7 - Tyler Thigepen

2006
1.3 - Vince Young
1.10 - Matt Leinart
1.11 - Jay Cutler (this is probably being generous)
2 - Kellen Clemens
2 - Tavaris Jackson
3 - Charlie Whitehurst
3 - Brodie Croyle
4 - Brad Smith
5 - Ingle Martin
5 - Omar Jacobs
6 - Reggie McNeal
6 - Bruce Gradkowski
7 - DJ Shockley

2005
1.1 - Alex Smith
1.24 - Aaron Rodgers
1.25 - Jason Campbell
3 - Charlie Frye
3 - Andrew Walter
3 - David Greene
4 - Kyle Orton
4 - Stefan LeFors
4 - Dan Orlovsky
5 - Adrian McPherson
6 - Derek Anderson
7 - James Kilian
7 - Matt Cassel
7 - Ryan Fitzpatrick

2004
1.1 Eli Manning
1.4 Phillip Rivers (again, being generous)
1.11 Ben Roethlisberger
1.22 JP Losman
3 - Matt Schaub (he's a fringe above average guy, not elite though)
4 - Luke McCown
5 - Craig Krenzel
6 - Josh Harris
6 - Jim Sorgi
6 - Jeff Smoker
7 - John Navarre
7 - Cody Pickett
7 - Caset Bramlet


That's SIX drafts without a single cornerstone guy after round 1. I would say Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Matt Flynn are guys you can point to that really out played their draft slot, and are great picks... but none of them are going to lead to you a Superbowl. The fact that they're all 7th rounders tell me they're complete luck also.

Look at that, and tell me I'm wrong... PLEASE. Tell me we can find our future franchise QB in the 2nd or 3rd round, based on history.

 

this might be the 2nd dumbest post i have read--- you really should do some HW...its one thing to not like Ben, but its another thing to post irrational arguments for getting rid of a HOF Qb...your arguments hold no water..


worilds has 1 more year on his contract and what has he really shown outside of a few games to warrant an extension---you do realize harrison likely will be cut unless he takes a 4 mil pay cut?

spence is battling a big knee injury and i was just reading he might have nerve damange

will allen is a free agent

curtis brown--- really bro?

we do not have a million wrs.... plax is a FA and likely will not be back bc he plays no STs...

cotchery has 1 year left and who has actually seen him play recently

that leaves us with 3 viable Wrs maybe 2 with brown and sanders and after the way they played this year im not sure im comfortable with that..