Market for Mason not be very warm

No worries.... I just see it differently.

 

I have no idea how hot or cold the market is for Mason or anyone right now, nor does Dulac or anyone for that matter. GM's will or have been getting with staff, reviewing vids, and trying to get a feel for who they want to approach for where their team is and who will be available. I have no idea what MR or his agent are thinking, but doubtful they are looking for starter money, but if someone offers something like that Mitch contract, sure sign and go. Realistically with a year that had many back ups shine for a moment or two, he hopes he has shown enough to get that offer you stated, if he can make that kind of cash for the next 4 years or so, invests it right, he won't need to real estate.

 

If you can bank $10m that is multi-generational wealth and you never will have to work another day in your life. Unless you do the dumb athlete crap like open a restaurant, buy real estate in a dumb location, etc. Put it in the vanguard index 500 fund and live off the interest for life.

 

Celebrating the fact that a career backup QB and 3rd stringer to start last season isn't wanted by other teams is lame AF. Landry Jones anyone? Yep, that's right, nobody wants any of the stiffs we trot out there to start games. Our trash is not another teams treasure.

Just blows my mind how some people don't/didn't appreciate Ben more and continue to take shots at him. The QB situation in Pittsburgh is a sorry ass sh!tshow since Ben retired. Case in point is how you guys are splitting hairs about the level of suck between the sucky QB options the steelers have.

 

agree, however Mason or Tanehill as backup is fine with me. It shouldn’t make too much difference. Either way Kenny should be looking over his shoulder if he’s struggling

 

Rudolph is a decent backup. Nobody is going to pay him QB1 money.

 

well, there is #1 money and then there is #1 money.

with out all day research, #1 money in Washington and ATL and TN is A LOT different than #1 money in Cincy or Baltimore or BUFF.

He would win the starting job here in Pittsburgh, given the chance.

But I hope he gets out. Tomlin did not give him the accolades he deserved for saving his ass the end of last year.

we were a dumpster fire heading to 7 and 9, before Mason stepped in.

 

I don't think Cananda even knew what play-action is.
Tony Dungy had some remarks to that effect.
Even though they let that clown walk, they still had to use that play book, or comic book.
I easily see Kenny under center in a 21 or 12 set.... I think the person that benefits the most is Harris.
I don't mind him in shotgun based on circumstances... with Warren.

I just don't know if he steps his game to what I expect. It is rare that a player transforms like that. We'll just have to see.

 

Doesn’t surprise me. Some idiots out there probably still believe Myles Garrett’s ridiculous claims and that might have a small impact in their shriveled minds.

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2019/1...back-devlin-duck-hodges-mason-rudolph-benched

Just a little something to even out the recency bias. The same people who say Pickett was benched for Rudolph, swear that Rudolph wasn't benched for Hodges.

The same people who say Pickett is trash after 2 seasons, also believe Rudolph is a much better QB now than in that season. Hmm.... so one guy who was considered trash at one point can get better but the other guy can't. Got it.

There's some awfully skewed logic used around here.

 

Same thing happened after Bradshaw, shi$ show until Ben (O'Donnell but he blew it). Could be a long wait once again.

 

Mason probably can't wait to re-sign here collecting money being number 3.

 

Mason really only had two bad games that year and his first year of starting. The one in which he got hit over the head and the next game against Cincinnati where during the week leading to it he got called a racist. As a 23-24 year old, when you have a national spotlight on you for being falsely accused as a racist, it’s normal to think your mind will not be in the game. It was in this game against Cincinnati that he got benched. He played Cincinnati early that year and demolished them. If there are extenuating circumstances, this is it. In my opinion, he has more upside than anyone available in free agency or draft.

 

Recently, there was a discussion on another thread about Mason's play in those games leading up to his concussion against the Ravens. I looked up highlight videos on YouTube that basically showed every pass by Rudolph in each one of those games. I shared those videos and my thoughts to go along with them. Mason's play was neither stellar, nor abysmal. It was exactly what you would expect from a guy getting his first few starts in the NFL. I invite you to do the same and find those videos. A lot of time has passed since then and people's memories of those games seems to be a little cloudy.

 

I imagine Flacco was unemployed because............HE'S 39 YEARS OLD! I never thought Flacco was that great but, he's better than Mason Rudolph! Yes, it is a reach to compare the two because, even at 39 and "washed up", he's STILL better than Rudolph. I imagine the Steelers had Trubisky ahead of Kenny because he's a veteran. Not a very good veteran but, more experienced than Kenny. I can't wait until guys like you take over for Pgh's personnel chiefs! Undefeated and SBs every year!

 

I am just looking at the QB free agent market. I don't believe any team not named the Steelers would sign him with a shot at starting. There will be at least 5 teams drafting their QB early in the draft and Cousins and Mayfield will be starting somewhere. The average pay for a backup QB was a little less than $3 million last year with just a handful above $4 million and no one was at $10 million plus. Mitch's contract was overpriced and they lived to regret it. Another reason why they wouldn't give Rudolph that kind of money.

 

Exactly. $3 - $4 million a year is not a slight on Mason. It's above average back up QB money. There's only 32 starting QB positions, so being the 40th best QB in the world is an impressive accomplishment. And like you said, if he comes back to Pittsburgh and Kenny doesn't cut it, he'll be the starter again.

 

Mason's QB rating in his first year before the Myles Garrett game is as follows:
Seattle - 92.4 (2 TD 1 Int)
SF (away) - 81.4 ( 2TD 1 Int)
Cinci - 124.6 (2 TD 0 Int)
Balt (before injury 13/20) - 100.2 (1 TD - 0 Int)

Comes back from Injury
Miami - 84.4 (2 TD - 1 Int)
Indy - 84.3 (1 TD - 1 Int)

Then the Myles Garrett game followed by Cincinnati game in which he got benched. You can clearly see he had superior QB play compared to average rookie before the injury and average play after the injury which is still superior to what Pickett has shown us in 24 starts with his 81.4 rating. He had multiple TD game in his first three appearances. You are bound to have some after effects from an injury where you are knocked out cold. His first 4 games compare favorably to some of the best first year starters. Only meaningful game after that prior to this season was the Detroit game in pouring rain where he actually outplayed Goff in a tie game. Last year he showed similar prowess as his first year before injury. He's clearly a better alternative than the guy with the worst TD to pass ratio in nfl history.

 

Well, free agency hasn't started yet so nobody knows what the market for Mason will be .

 

Mid performances for a QB on a team with and offense with a pulse, not mid performances for the QB pkay we had been used to.

 

That works the other way too. There are those who absolutely refuse to admit that Pickett lost the job to Mason, citing his injury among other things, but are quick to argue that Mason lost his job to Duck even though Mason suffered a knockout concussion, got assaulted with his own helmet by a punk, thug, race baiting fool and then had his character assassinated by the same punk, thug, race baiting fool. It’s no wonder Mason’s performance deteriorated given all of the physical and emotional turmoil that he went through that season. But, but, but Kenny didn’t lose his job but Mason most certainly did.

As for your last point, I believe Kenny can improve but I’m starting to believe what most all of the draft analysts reported about him, that he had a high floor but a low ceiling. I’m concerned about his durability and his mental acuity and believe he has limitations that will prohibit him from becoming an elite NFL starter. As I mentioned earlier, I’m just hoping he can develop into Neil O’Donnell at this point.

 

you did not mention the rams game....

 

So…if you had your druthers, you’d rather the Steelers bring Flacco in than re-sign Rudolph, let’s say on a one year deal?