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Rudolph indicates he wants a fresh start

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Feb 11, 2024.

  1. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    I only think a few would give him a chance. And none would be hands down where he keeps the job.
     
  2. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Very big 14 point swing!
     
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  3. mikeyg

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    of course 'none, hands down'

    he has to perform, just like the rest of us......

    BEN had to perform
     
  4. mikeyg

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    well, it was not a '14 point swing'

    it would have been nice of the defense could have slowed anything down that day. They just did NOT SCORE the 7 there.

    yes - that play was a defining moment in the game, a big momentum changer after an EXCELLENT drive down the field.

    BUT - Mason and the OFFENSE fought back HARD to close it to 7 in the 4th Q - and then the D folded again like a cheap tent.
     
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  5. MadtownDruankard

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    I full expect us to use the same strategy we used when we signed Mitch. Bringing in a QB that knows Smith's system is an obvious move that we need to make. It will help everyone if we have a QB that knows the offense - even if it's just on practice days.

    RyanT is the obvious option to compete with Kenny. I guess the problem is that's not really making Kenny compete for the job. So Kenny will likely be asked to beat out a washed up QB at the end of an average career. That's not exactly competition. It's an insurance policy. Tomlin has always ignored the 3rd string QB spot . If there's one thing we all know about Tomlin is he hates risk unless it's a 2 point conversion or 3rd and 1. He's predictable. He's going to do what he's always done. Avoid a QB controversy by signing an older vet with zero upside and hope to win with KP and an ultraconservative offense. I don't agree with it unless we have no other choices. No point reaching for a QB in RND 1 or 2 if they don't like them.

    The 3rd string QB will be a late day 2 draft pick or a cheap FA that can run. We all know MT would like to run wildcat plays if he could. I guess all I can say is RyanT can't possibly be as bad as Mitch. The goal of our front office has always been to build an avg team. If we can get 8-9 wins and a wild card game that's fine. Anything more is gravy. It appears we are in salary cap trouble so making a big move isn't going to happen. Give it another year to see if Kenny is good enough... if not draft a QB in 2025. I see us focusing on big men in 2024. We need better play on both lines. We need an ILb. We usually chase 1 athletic player early in the draft. I could see Safety or WR in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. 1st and is gonna be O-line or D-line. Possibly ILB if one we love drops.

    I don't know much about Smith's system but I've heard he loves to run the ball and use TE's in the passing game. If that's the case that probably makes the O-line even more important. In the day of small / athletic Lb's I'm not sure if that's the best scheme to be using but like I said I know nothing about his system.
     
  6. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    See u can't even quote me right lol... I said he made a mistake genius... if you're going to steal all my lines that make your arguments look dumb, fanboy, excuses, etc... atleast don't make up sh!t...
    We've already discussed your inability to EVER be wrong about anything... we get it Ben was an early Lamar Jackson... lmao. You're still harping on it... it's nice to live rent free in your head.. keep following a long and ill write some more material 4u...lol
     
  7. Philofarnsworth79

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    It will be sad if Rudolph chooses to leave... He put this team on his back & carried them into the playoffs... He had the players behind him as a leader & reignited the fanbase making the last 4 games more fun than we'd had in yrs... He also almost led them to a playoff win over a very good bills team... Only the simplest among us would argue that what he accomplished wasn't a huge & unexpected success... I hope he returns but wish him luck no matter what... True steelers fans should be proud of him as he's been nothing but a professional...

    One thing I think we can all agree on though is ,,,,
    These Kenny Pickett fanboys are exhausting... lmao
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why would you come onto a football forum and try and bs your way through something you don’t understand. You don’t know X’s and O’s, it’s ok but spewing “peewee level” and “football 101” stuff is always a tipoff a guy is talking out his ass.

    No **** it was a designed play, Rudolph threw it before DJ came out of his break, if Rudolph throws it to the outside that’s a TD and almost impossible to defend since the ball is already in the air. It was a great play by the defender to be sure, great reaction time by him but he wouldn’t have been in position to catch it had Rudolph put it in the right spot.

    You’re so ridiculous with your favoritism of Rudolph you don’t even listen to him when he says he ****ed up, just make excuses for him :lolol:

    There was plenty of room, did you even watch it, ffs man, take the L and move on.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He wasn’t light years better than him in the game we saw Pickett without Canada. Thats was pretty comparable if we are being fair.

    How convenient Rudolph got on the field 4 weeks post Canada.
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Put the team on his back :roflmao:

    Good grief, the bar for great performances has gotten very low for some of you.
     
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  11. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    I know how leggos work & way more about x & os clearly... there's no room... he threw it early because it was designed that way... I said he shouldn't have & I didn't absolve him of blame at all... Why would you come on a steelers forum & constantly sh!t on a guy that was one of the few bright spots this year???
     
  12. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point... No objectivity at all.. just poor Kenny & hate Rudolph... EXHAUSTING

    Who set the bar so low Blast???
     
  13. Mashburn

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    3 good games isn't enough for teams to say, you're our guy.

    So no, this is nothing like Ben.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You do realize you’re the one with no objectivity right, you literally accuse everyone of which you are.

    Here let me show you. The play Pickett got hurt on was his fault, he had Austin all alone and chose to run it. Even if his progressions began on the opposite side of the field he should have recognized Austin was going to be alone for an easy TD.

    Notice how I didnt try to blame anyone else as part of why that play broke down like you are doing with Rudolph on the interception to DJ.

    And thats just one example, Picketts tape is littered with mistakes. You just have a problem with me thinking Pickett is better and also for me thinking Rudolph is just a BU QB. Which by the way might be all Pickett is. We’ll find out the answer to that definitively this season.
     
  15. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    The problem wasn’t that he threw it, it was his ball placement. If he puts it in the right spot it’s a TD.
     
  16. HeinzMustard

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    :popcorn:
     
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  17. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    No your inability to give any credit to Rudolph is where the lack of objectivity comes into play... You always dial it back with well I said this or that about Pickett but ANY credit given to Rudolph is ,,, "Mediocre" or they were playing a highschool defense.. Thats where the lack in objectivity & agenda becomes obvious... You can't even celebrate their success with Rudolph at the helm... we can disagree about the out route, fine, but everything else I said is accurate... The offense was better with Rudolph,,, the team was CLEARLY behind him,,, & the fans were excited about games again..
    This thread is about Rudolph btw & his success this season was clear & apparent as everyone witnessed it but you... which shocks me with all your film study... Yes I'm a Rudolph fan, OK st b4 I became a steelers fan, but I'm here now whether Rudolph goes or stays... I want what's best for this team... Do you???
     
  18. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL....LoL....LoL.
    Sad thing is You are actually serious. Stop Blast. Just take the L. You act like they were running totally different plays for one, and not the other. You brought up one of the all 22s. Go back , and watch them all again. Many...many ....many of the same passing plays were being run....that all 3 Qbs played with. The difference was one of them saw the open targets, and the others didn't. Hopefully KFP if he's our Qb this upcoming season gets better at that.
     
  19. forgotten1

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    Now that Mitch is gone I hope Mason follows.
    This way bigk is here with a journeyman QB, late rd draft pick QB and a Duck in camp.
     
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  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :facepalm:
     
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  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That’s because you see what you want to see. I have complimented Rudolph for improving his game and have credited his working with Tom House at the QB Ranch for elevating his game. Does that mean I think he is a starting QB in this league? No. That doesn’t mean I’m not objective, I just don’t think as highly as him as you do. If I’m wrong we’ll find out soon enough but I don’t see any team making him their starter. At best he will go to another team and land a #2 job.
     
  22. Philofarnsworth79

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    I mean this doesn't really match up with most of your posts but okay I guess I can respect that... Maybe we'll see him as a starter in Pittsburgh next season & you tell me what kind of numbers he'll have to put up to gain your confidence... I mean if 3-4 & 90% completion rates, 2nd in longest pass tds in 3 games etc is just "Mediocre"... but okay
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    If hes the starter I’ll be rooting for him believe me. And I’ll put my homer glasses on and get myself psyched up thinking that the Steelers must have seen something in him in those 4 games that translates to being the franchise guy. Plus as I mentioned the off field work he has been doing to improve his game. I’ll rally around all that and go cheer him on.
     
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  24. Steel_Elvis

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    We saw Pickett without Canada for most of the first half vs Arizona, and other than a single deep completion to Pickens on the first drive, he looked like he was coming back down to earth. Ok, but not good. But setting aside Pickett, I don’t get how you and others are completely discrediting what Rudolph did for the offense. He gave us the best QB play we had last season, and it wasn’t even close. I was one of the biggest Rudolph doubters out there, but I’m not going to deny what my eyes saw. He moved the ball, and the offense responded to him. I still doubt that he’s a starting QB, but he played like a strong #2.
     
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  25. steelersrule6

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    The Steelers had Bryon Leftwich as their 3rd string QB, behind Ben and Charlie Batch :shrug:.
     
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