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Art Rooney II ‘Not Closing The Door’ On Steelers Trading For QB

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Feb 6, 2024.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Was He??? I can't remember.
     
  2. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Yes he was,I remember that
     
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  3. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see the Steelers explore Cooper Rush to see his
    Availability , He may get a better chance here than in Dallas with Dallas
    bringing in Trey lance last year.
     
  4. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    Our next great QB hasn’t even graduated yet.
     
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  5. pczach

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    From what level of football? Pop Warner??? Junior high school?? High School?? College??

    I'm asking for a friend.
     
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  6. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Potty training
     
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  7. pczach

    pczach Well-Known Member

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    I may not have that long! :lolol:
     
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  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    I plan to hang in
     
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  9. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    Well, now that the question isn’t it?
    I’m hoping high school.
     
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  10. Formerscribe

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    Are you trying to gaslight me or are you really that clueless about Roethlisberger? He didn't run a lot, but he was much more mobile than Rudolph. it wasn't close. Maybe you are confusing speed and mobility. Maybe you are just clueless.

    That you don't understand that the poor competition the Steelers faced in those games matters shows you don't know football at all.

    That you don't understand that Pickett also looked great in his one full game without Canada shows you didn't even bother to properly pay attention this past season.

    Do better.
     
  11. Philofarnsworth79

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    I am trying to point out how absurd your opinion is... & returning your typical nonsense right back at you... You're one of those people who have NEVER been wrong about anything,,, ever... The fact that you're still arguing that the teams were trash & Canada was the excuse shows how deeply misguided your thought processes are... those are all EXCUSES that you're making up because you need to, to support such an out of touch opinion... My opinion is rooted in what actually happened... That's the difference... But with ppl who can never be wrong it doesn't really matter because you're not listening to anyone else anyways...
     
  12. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    I hear foot stomping
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    I see you are trying to deflect from your ridiculous claim that Rudolph is as mobile as Roethlisberger ever was. Speaking of absurd opinions that aren't based in what actually happened. Roethlisberger wasn't just tough to bring down. He was very mobile early in his career, though he usually scrambled around to buy time to throw rather than to take off and run with the ball. I'm curious if you have the integrity to admit you were wrong about that one.

    Evaluating a team and a player's performance based on all available information, including the poor quality of the competition, is the accurate, valid approach. Ignoring such things is the sort of thing we get from a delusional Rudolph fanboy, the sort of guy who thinks Rudolph moves as well as Roethlisberger did in his prime. The Bengals' defense was horrid, even worse than the first time the Steelers' played them because they had lost their best run defender up front. That forced them to try to focus even more on stopping the run, which helped create all those one-on-one matchups for Pickens. Rudolph quite a few good throws. He also missed receivers who were open deep at least three more times. Even the spectacular catch by Pickens late in the first half was a poor throw. Pickens beat the defender badly, but Rudolph threw it behind him and too close to the sideline.

    The Seahawks' defense was also terrible and the Steelers ran for over 200 yards in that game. 'Nuff said.

    The Ravens sat three of their best defenders all game. They tried to sit Queen at halftime, but injuries at ILB forced them to put him back in. They were treating it like a preseason game, which is a big deal given how important disguising defenses is to what they do. I'm guessing you had no idea about any of that because you aren't interested in anything professing your undying love for a sixth-year pro who had three good games.

    Canada was a disaster. It wasn't even the first time he has been fired for being a disaster. At least LSU was smart enough to do it after just one season. If you don't understand that getting to play without him was an advantage, you really do understand nothing.
     
  14. Michael E

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    The players wanting Mason doesn't mean anything in regards to his ability or potential. The players also speak up for a crappy HC and that's got us nowhere for 10+ years.
     
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  15. Philofarnsworth79

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    My claim that Rudolph is atleast as mobile as Roethlisberger is based way more in reality than your claim that Kenny Picketts problems were Canada's fault... Your inability to give Rudolph any credit & Pickett any blame is what makes you a kfp fanboy... I like that me calling you a fanboy now means you use the term to deflect... lmao. You can't even admit that Rudolph is the best Qb on the roster after all we've witnessed & I'M THE FANBOY lol... But I get it, you can't defend your other positions, which are clearly misguided & just EXCUSES for Rudolphs 90% completion rate or whatever, so you want to hang your argument on this big Ben mobility thing.. Well fine,,, Ben was more mobile than Rudolph early in his career... you were right & I was wrong... Does this help your fragile ego?
     
  16. Formerscribe

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    The proper response would have been to admit that you were wrong without the lame personal attack. You didn't just make a terrible point. You doubled down on it. You are still trying to defend it by saying it is somehow less wrong than other arguments. It's not. It shows either ignorance regarding Roethlisberger, a fanboyish and unrealistic view of Rudolph, or both.

    At least you finally showed a shred of integrity by admitting your error.

    Unfortunately, you either don't understand what I've been posting or you are intentionally misrepresenting my posts. Which is it?

    I've given Rudolph credit for taking advantage of the situation and playing better than he had earlier in his career. He did enough to elevate himself from a guy nobody wanted as anything more than a third-stringer to a guy who should at least be somebody's No. 2. I have said signing him to compete with Pickett would be a viable option. Unlike you, I know better than to want to hand him the job based on two games against terrible defenses and one against an opponent treating the game as an exhibition.

    I also never blamed all of Pickett's struggles on Canada, but I do understand that coaching played a role in his regression. I'm sorry you are too caught up in three games by "Mediocre" Mason Rudolph to see that.
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    Wrs wanting a Qb over another Qb means nothing???
    Since their whole career is driven by a Qb....I believe You are wrong.
     
  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    This makes no sense whatsoever

    Do they like him because he’s cute
     
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  19. AskQuestionsLater

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    I asked the Jacksonville Jaguars how this is working out!!


    Here is their answer!!!







    Urban Meyer sure as hell didn't help but Trevor isn't blameless in any of this either. While he still has time, I personally believe that any notion of him ever being a Top Five QB can now be put to rest unless he bounces back in a big way.
     
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  20. Blast Furnace

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    No to a first. Whoever gives them that is crazy, Chicago doesn’t hold any cards.
     
  21. AtlSteel

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    Would like to know more about that Tomlin being a big fan of Fields thing. If true, what does he like better, his lack of pocket awareness or his inability to read defenses?
     
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  22. Steel_Elvis

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    Neither. It’s his inaccuracy that has caught Tomlin’s eye.
     
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  23. Philofarnsworth79

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    You don't get to talk about lame personal attacks when u make them more than anyone.. gtfoh

    I love how you have always said this or that when your arguments get destroyed instead of admitting your mistakes... typical for someone who has never been wrong about anything ever...
    And if it's "Mediocre mason " than what does that say about Kenny Pickett lol...
     
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  24. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Well

    They have cards but they are all face up
     
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  25. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    DAB
     

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