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A Message to Mason Rudolph

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TuRnDoWnForWaTT, Jan 15, 2024.

  1. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know football??? This from the guy pushing Pickett over Rudolph... lol. Oh you once said something negative about Pickett so we'll just ignore all your delusional bitterness towards Rudolph & his "mid" performance that most steelers fans can celebrate,,, but not you... I wonder why??? Plz spare us any "truth" speeches... you have ZERO credibility at this point...

    Who let myles Garretts Lil sister become a mod on this site???
     
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  2. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Why would they cut both? Mason played under the exact same scheme and plays as Pickett. Mason produced while Pickett did not. One of things that keeps getting ignored from rooney’s presser is his comments on qb play. I’ll have to paraphrase, but close enough. It was along the lines of we saw what the offense was capable of with quality qb play. Rudolph put up the 4 best consecutive games of qb play we have seen since 2018. Art did have some positive things to say about Pickett, but he made it perfectly clear bigk’s play was below the line.
     
  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    It appears some poster has difficulty with varying opinions on a message board

    Unheard of

    ;)
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’m just wondering if the kid has some sort of alarm that goes off when I say anything about Rudolph. Like candyman, poof hes there.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Hyperbole. Point was neither are the answer then so go find one that is.
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You don’t, you’re just a complete Rudolph homer. You don’t even realized you keep accusing people of which you are.

    By the way kid, attacking mods, bold strategy. Sooner or later your clown act will stop amusing me.
     
  7. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    I for one wish they would just go ahead and get rid of who is here and bring in Malik Willis.
    Need to put an end to this madness.
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You joke but the Titans will probably release him ;)
     
  9. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    Should be on the cheap then. Just how the Steelers like it. :smiley1:
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’ve been holding off on making that post, you guys aren’t ready for that yet.
     
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  11. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I ABSOLUTELY agree with everything you just said, strummer.

    What in the crap is the world coming to?:facepalm:
     
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  12. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I really have a hard time understanding how any knowledgeable and objective fan of the Steelers could watch Picket’s performance over nearly two full seasons and then watch Mason’s performance the last four games and come away with any other conclusion except the quarterback play was exceptionally better with Mason behind center than it was with Pickett. The offense functioned better. The running game was more effective. He got his offensive skill players more involved and engaged. The team looked like a legitimate NFL offense with Mason as the QB while it looked like a JV offense with Kenny. I really don’t see how anybody can debate that.

    Does that mean Mason is all of a sudden the answer? No. Does it mean Kenny should be kicked to the curb and not given an opportunity to earn the starting job next season? No. But Mason is CLEARLY the better QB at this point and I hope the Steelers are able to retain him and give him an equal opportunity to earn the QB1 job.
     
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  13. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    If Pickett can't handle that, he is not the guy.
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    How do you explain Kenny playing his best game in the first game without Canada. Why are you so sure he wouldn’t have kept that up if he didn’t get hurt?

    You only want to recognize Kennys poor games while playing under Canada while only paying attention to Masons games without Canada.

    The offense looking better has more to do with Canada being out of the picture than Rudolph putting the team on his shoulders.
     
  15. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Your take is overly simplistic. It ignores that Pickett got only one full game without Canada. It also ignores that the first three opponents Rudolph faced were far easier. The Bengals were even worse than they had been when Pickett started against them due to the loss of a key run defender. The Seahawks' defense was decent the first month of the season, then collapsed. The Ravens were sitting their best players and primarily focused on getting through the game healthy.

    Even against Buffalo, Rudolph didn't really get rolling until the Steelers were down. It also helped that the Bills lost a couple of guys during that game, including their leading tackler.
     
  16. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Disagree. It was largely the same offense. Kenny played well against the Bengals and produced 16 points. I know the bad call on DJ’s TD cost them additional points there, but that happens in NFL games. Rudolph was a difference maker. Tomlin acknowledged that finally after the season and Rooney acknowledged that in his presser yesterday when he said good quarterback play was the difference.

    I’m not giving up on Kenny and he’ll be given every opportunity to compete for the starting job but he should have to earn it.
     
  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    That’s it don’t take any crap off of him

    Tell him what you really think

    Have no fear

    We are all behind you
     
  18. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Disagree. Mason was clearly head and shoulders better than Kenny has been at any point in his two year NFL career. Had Kenny continued at the QB position, the Steelers would have been sitting at home come playoff time. That may have been better in the long run because we would have known exactly what Kenny is and there may have been more of an urgency to look at other quarterback options going forward. As it turns out, we’ll have Kenny trying to find his way again next season with Jacoby Brissett backing him up and Mason will have moved on to greener pastures.
     
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  19. forgotten1

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    Please no Jacoby Briskett
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Team game, you’re acting like Rudolph either threw or ran for all the TDs himself.

    The film has been posted from Kennys game, 3 times now, lol, he was doing all the things Rudolph was doing. He wasn’t perfect by any means, his flaws still showed up but that was ONE game without Canada.
     
  21. Tiggs99

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    I have watched Pickett to know that he's reached his ceiling. His one game against Cincinnati is shown by his supporters to claim, it was Canada, but not Pickett. He only scored 16 points, and Mitch Trubisky actually played worse without Canada. It's not OC, but Pickett. He doesn't do anything well, and is sort of a dummy based on his low Wonderlic score. Give Canada Tom Brady and he will seem like Belichek. Mason is a better QB than Pickett or Trubisky will ever be. I saw some Blast Furnace's post prior to Mason starting this season, and he was totally dismissive, mocking people who hinted perhaps Steelers could win with Mason. Now that he's been proven wrong, he's having a hard time accepting that putting caveat's to Mason's performance.
     
  22. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah, because I didn’t believe that the guy that was rejected by the whole league is a starting QB. My prediction he would be out of the NFL almost came true if not for a lifeline thrown by the Steelers. By Rudolphs own admission he almost went into real estate after that free agency period.

    We’ll find out how much he is in demand this offseason. You won’t see any team sign him as a starting QB though, best he can hope for is another BU gig.
     
  23. Tiggs99

    Tiggs99 Well-Known Member

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    Probably true, but if he signs with Pittsburgh and Pickett starts, he will replace Pickett some time during the season. Long term back up gig isn't that bad in the nfl. You make around $5 million a year. Your body doesn't take the abuse and you become popular in town. You keep supporting the lead QB, because it proves you are loyal and your weaknesses as QB doesn't get exposed..win win.
     
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  24. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I won’t disagree with that, he could end up starting here. Kenny is far from a lock.
     
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  25. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Pickett and Rudolph did not play under the same circumstances. Pickett played one full game after they got rid of Canada and immediately improved dramatically. Faulkner and Sullivan had more time to figure out what would work by the time Rudolph took over.

    Rudolph also got to face the easiest stretch of opposing defenses all season. The Bengals were a disaster, even worse than the first time the Steelers played them due to injury. The Seahawks started out solid defensively, but fell apart way before the Steelers ran all over them. The Ravens sat arguably their three best defenders the entire game. They pulled Queen for a while, too, but put him back in when they had injuries at ILB. Also, given that they didn't need the game, it is almost certain that they played a lot more basic defense than normal so they wouldn't put anything on film. Remember, one of the things that made the Ravens tough is the way they disguise their defenses. Rudolph was facing a shell of the normal Baltimore defense, with the primary issue he faced being the weather.

    The Bills, despite their injuries, were the first good defense he faced and it showed in his worst performance of the season, including a disastrous interception.
     

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