Cut Ben some slack on the film study

In overtime in his own end of the field, a QB rolls to his right, and throws an ill-advised pass into coverage and it is intercepted, essentially ending the team's season. This describes a QB who is considered one of the best at studying film and running an offense (Manning) and one who allegedly studies little film and is a backyard gunslinger (Ben). Maybe studying film isn't all it is cracked up to be.

 

I think down the stretch Ben realized it was all on him due to our oline and no running attack. He tried to do too much AMD was still injured.

 

It was a bad decision, it had nothing to do with studying film. Peyton can read defenses like no other, that's why he's always changing the play . ( usually for the better) 1 bad throw doesn't mean studying film can be a waste of time, it's only 1 play.

 

the int vs bengals was a no brainer. EVERYONE KNEW Ben would target HEEEAATH then and there.

 

When ever Ben wears the gloves his throws are usually off, they say the ball sticks to them too much. So he's trying to adjust to the gloves, some passes he'll release too soon thinking the ball will stick longer (but then the ball comes out normal = INT or over thrown) Or if he tries to throw it normal, then the ball sticks, and it comes out low. I blame the gloves.

 

Manning was wearing gloves yesterday wonder if that's why he threw that int?

 

naaaa he just sucks lol glad they lost cus I have an arrogant Denver fan on my street, when ever I see the clown he always has something to say about them beating us b2b. I can't say much back cus it wasn't the steelers who knocked them out, but I'll find something. When we lost to GB in the SB this guy bought a GB hat just to bug me , maybe I'll get a Rat hat lol, but I'll wear a steelers winter hat underneath it so the rat hat isn't touching my head.

 

This.

 

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must have a lot of guys in the locker room that have inside info on this...

 

Nobody said he was perfect.

 

I don't really think Ben has a choice. Haleys offense is probably more demanding and complex than Arians offense was. If he doesn't spend more time in the film room then the results will certainly show.

 

This was kind of my point. If the supposed "master" and Ben pretty much get the same (poor) result, on almost identical looking plays, maybe some criticism of Ben is a little overblown. Execution in the heat of the moment is a tough thing to do, and mistakes happen.

I do think all Manning's shenanigans pre snap make him look smarter than he is. And he does choke in the playoffs a lot.

Go Houston!

 

Yes and as we see with Ben, Manning was getting the snap repeatedly with 1-2 seconds on the play clock.

 

Well Ben himself has said in the past that he needs to spend more time doing it so I will take his word for it. Ben is not a first read kinda guy though ya know. I think he can read defenses but I don't know how much he does it from the line of scrimmage as opposed to watching the defensive play develop and making a decision from there. I mean qb's like Manning and Brady will exploit matchups but it seems like Ben constantly wants to go for the big play and has never been one of those guys that "takes what the defense gives him". I like that but in some respects I wish he would just take what he can get some times. There were multiple times this year where an open guy was there but Ben just went for the longer ball. In the heat of the moment I can understand that but I wonder if he ever looks back in retrospect and thinks "man I need to start taking what I can get because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"? I'm sure that is EXACTLY what he thinks. lol.

 

Thought Ben's decision making process vastly improved up until late this season. He has thrown the risky throws when it was deep in the opponent's green and has stated so afterwards. So I think he does what the good QBs do in evaluating risk/reward.

So what happened? Well, when your line is broken and pieces are mixed and matched from quarter to quarter and you're constantly under duress bad things are going to happen. Add into the equation no run game to alleviate pressure, a new OC w/ different plays and structure, you're gonna see dropped passes and interceptions. And dumb ones!

I'm hoping that things are more in sync next season.
I don't think lack of film study is a problem.
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The whole team needs a lot more than film studies. They need leaders for a starter and player willing to play.

 

A lot of people around here like to buy into the rumor mill and flap their gums about stuff they have no real facts about. How does anyone other than Ben or the coaches really know how much fim he watches?

 

His best buddy Arians said as much in a recent article on PG

 

Peyton is a pocket passer, you don't see him run around much he was out of his comfort zone. Just before he threw the nail in the coffin, he probably thought he was 10 years younger and could put enough zip on the ball to get it inside the small window. His arm is gone and so are his legs = easy pickins for the closest defender. It had nothing to do with reading the defense, the play was already broken. He reads the D before the ball is snapped, not after.