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Nice draft Tomlin

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Real steel, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. Real steel

    Real steel Well-Known Member

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    Mike you really know how to draft

    : Adams (smokes at Combine),
    Ta'amu (drunken rampage on S Side),
    Rainey (charged w simply battery)



     
  2. Concussion

    Concussion Well-Known Member

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    How can you complain about these players without including Roethlisberger and Burress.
     
  3. SteelerGlenn

    SteelerGlenn

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    Last time I checked Colbert did the drafting. Nice try though.
     
  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    c'mon glenn, tomlin has alot more say then you make it out to be. why be a HC if someone else is going to build your team? not buying it. colbert may have the final say but tomlins input is just as much if not more on his players.:cool:
     
  5. BurgherBoy7

    BurgherBoy7 Well-Known Member

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    Yea adams screwed up, but he hasn't been an issue since he got here. He apologized before getting drafted, and he stepped up as a rookie when guys got hurt. And the running game showed flashes when Adams played. Not so much after he got hurt. Can't scrutinize a guy who hasn't had issues since becoming a steeler. Now rainey and Ta'amu are a different story this year.
     
  6. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Why be a GM if the coach is going to over rule you?
     
  7. biggbunch68

    biggbunch68

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    :this!:
     
  8. knab70

    knab70 Well-Known Member

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    True..HC's are onboard with selection
     
  9. SteelerGlenn

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    I'm sure he has some input, but to make a thread blaming Tomlin for the draft picks that have been trouble is silly.
     
  10. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    Winner...
     
  11. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I don't see how Adams fits on that list. Has he "misbehaved" since he's been here?
     
  12. FeartheBeard

    FeartheBeard Well-Known Member

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    No he hasnt and tomlin doesn't deserve to be singled out here for Raineys poor judgement.
     
  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    as i said he may have the final say but a coach has to have that right to pick his team.:cool:
     
  14. lersgofor7

    lersgofor7 Well-Known Member

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    then why isnt the coach of every nfl team a gm also? its input from all parts...
     
  15. gpguy

    gpguy Well-Known Member

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    Probably because the post is about players Tomlin drafted (and ones from this last draft).
     
  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    some are. of course it's input from all parts. they don't throw darts.:cool:
     
  17. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    Some coaches have the final say on all personnel decisions. Tomlin isn't one of those coaches. He has to answer to both Colbert and the Rooney's. Rooney and Colbert get input into who is drafted. Rooney has made statements in the past that he was very involved in the day to day operation of the football club and that isn't going to change.

    I don't know who is given the most say when it comes to our drafts, but as far as I'm concerned, everyone is to blame, from the owners all the way down to the coordinators.
     
  18. shaner82

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    Exactly. So what, the guy liked to smoke weed, what college kid doesn't? True, he screwed up at the combine, but I once got fired from a job because I smoked a joint a few hours before my shift and smelled slightly like weed. It was a stupid mistake I made, but I was a stupid college kid. Just because these guys are aiming for a career in the NFL doesn't mean they aren't stupid college kids. The expectations of them should be the same of any college kid, mistakes will be made, it's whether they repeat them that truly matters. In the grand scheme of things, smoking weed isn't a big deal.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Seriously, it's comical the OP put him on that list.
     
  20. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    Whoever is drafting has to do better then.
    Our backups are not performing to the standard, ha-ha.


    I couldn't find the stat online, but Seattle has something like 5 rookies starting?
     
  21. ScottChab

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    EVERYTHING is Tomlin's fault. WRs dropping passes, RBs and KRs fumbling like it's their job, injuries, penalties.
     
  22. antennaman1969

    antennaman1969 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, boy. Teams like Seattle, Indy, Arizona, and Washington have a lot less to lose than an organization like Pittsburgh. If you're in the lower third of the league on a regular basis, what else do you have to lose besides putting these guys in and catching lightning in a bottle? If they already sucked, then they just sucked with rookies on the field. The standard is the standard here; and it ain't 4-12. Seattle is in a perennial laughingstock called the NFC West. Washington is in the NFC East, last team to the bottom won the division.
    I guess we'll just troll each other for a couple of months to make the time pass......;)
     
  23. shaner82

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    So Seattle only put those young guys in because they normally suck every year? You're telling me that was the thought going through Pete Carroll's head when he decided to play his rookies? I guess the fact that they are arguably the best defence in the league is just pure luck. You can say what you want about their division, they are in the playoffs and we aren't. They won games when it mattered, we didn't.

    They had exactly the same amount to lose as we did. Just because they've been bad for a while now doesn't mean they have less to lose. What exactly are we going to lose by starting our rookies that they can't also lose by starting their rookies?
     
  24. shaner82

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    Not his fault, but it is his responsibility to fix those issues. The buck stops with him. Players showing up to camp fat, Tomlin needs to fix it. Players constantly committing penalties, that's also on Tomlin. He needs to find a way to fix those issues, even if it means getting new players.
     
  25. antennaman1969

    antennaman1969 Well-Known Member

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    Pete Carroll's not looking at a squad that is embarrassed at 8-8 or 10-6. That gets the C-HOX a ticker-tape parade. Steeler nation expects 12-4 and a taxi cab full of pro-bowlers. But, I will agree that he has drafted some ballers up there that can't possibly stay on the bench. Part of that, to me, is where they drafted recently; part of it is how the Steeler org has drafted (needs versus BPA).
     

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