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Mike Tomlin On Notion Of Misevaluating Mason Rudolph...

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Philofarnsworth79

    Philofarnsworth79 Well-Known Member

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    Considering the impact of his invention for better or worse, you'd think he'd be more famous... Especially considering the number of idiots who are famous because of it...lol
     
  2. zcoop

    zcoop Well-Known Member

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    Dang, I thought he was talking about Bootney. LOL
     
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  3. Steelvision

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    inadequate OC and QB coach support set both Mason and KP back. The Mitch idea was probably Canada’s preference also. That’s the guy I believe set this team back by 3 years.

    About the competition, I’m convinced Mason has the better pocket awareness, in addition to the stronger arm and better durability. Can he read defenses better than KP? Maybe, we’ll find out in the next week or so
     
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  4. SteelersFanCanada

    SteelersFanCanada Well-Known Member

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    A gold helmet would be more fitting
     
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  5. Brice

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    I think early on for Mason it was intentional to put him down when Ben and Randy were running the show.

    After hearing's Ben's BS about never not liking Mason on his Seattle game podcast, it was nice that Mason spoke up this week about how much he is enjoying being in the QB room more these last couple of years.

    I remember last year for the 1 Week that Mason was active every other Day Tomlin would say something to the Media about Mason, and then after practice Mason was there with the Wise-Ass remark right back at Tomlin. If he was coming up with those lines on the spot, he is one very smart S.O.B.
     
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  6. Iron Nickel

    Iron Nickel Well-Known Member

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    He should have made up some **** about how Tomlin called him "coffee boy" or had him rub his bunions after practice.
     
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  7. mcam

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    I don't really get why Rudolph appears to be written off as only a 3rd down emergency QB.

    The easy answer is that it could just be as simple as a mistake of judgement by Tomlin.

    It's easy to judge in retrospect and to claim superiority when not in that position.

    My position is Tomlin is my coach and think he's doing a pretty good job considering the circumstances and I support him moving forward and/or beyond.

    in the chance he would depart from the Steelers, I wish him thanks and the best.
     
  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    No
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He wasn’t missevaluated, there were flaws in his game that so far look to have been improved upon.

    The only way to see what these guys can really do is playing in actual games. Can’t recreate that on the practice field.
     
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  10. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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  11. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't the only logical explanation. The more likely one is that they just didn't think he was good.
     
  12. Formerscribe

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    The offense looked very good the first time they played the Bengals, and that was with Pickett at quarterback. Remember, they were robbed of a touchdown by a poor officiating call early in that.

    I have approached all of this objectively. That includes understanding that two games proves nothing, especially if with those two games coming against terrible opposing defenses. I'm sorry you can't see that.

    I haven't accused anybody of being a fanboy. I threw it back at one poster as a joke. Again, I'm sorry your deficiencies don't allow you to see that, either.
     
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  13. Michael E

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    Oh god, now I can vision Steelers signing MR to a big 4 year contract and him going back to his norm and being sub-mediocre. Scary. MR is a big UNKNOWN right now. The trouble the Steelers brass, fans and media have, is we've seen such crappy QB and offense, that even one or two games of anything mediocre or better and we think we found the answer. I just don't believe MR is the BEST answer, but I do think he could be better than Kenny and Mitch. I think they let Mitch walk, if MR signs a short deal with a bump, fine, but still draft another development QB, maybe a small school stud that has a good mental grasp of the game.

    I would NOT want to be making the MR decision on offering a deal or moving on...that could blow a hole in the cap and get us poor QB play.

    In the end, they could gut the QB room, wouldn't bother me, so long as they put extra resources on finding a GOOD OC.

    Baltimore hired the UGA OC last year and seem to have figured out how to BOTH run and PASS the ball now. Lamar looks elite now.

    KC let Bieniemy walk and now Mahomes looks like he fell a full tier.
     
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  14. Michael E

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    Amen!

    Now, lets say MR has another good game this weekend (likely wth Ravens benching many starters). Do you offer him the contract he and his agent will try to milk from a QB needy team? He's not going to go for backup money. He's going to shop around for a 4 year deal and $15+ million per year and i'd guess a team wll do that in hopes that tiny window of good play is enough (out of desperation). I just don't think i'd do that deal with MR. I think the downside is greater than the upside.
     
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  15. Vox Ferrum

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    I was listening to Dan PAtrick today, the guest host has a guy on who played 12 years as a back up, you could count his starts under 2 hands (I am really bad remembering names), they were talking on how one good start could get a back up 2 to 3 years more in this league. The QB play is at times so bad that having a guy you can trust to just play an manage a team for a few games is what they look for. So if anything..and especially if he plays decent tomorrow, I think MR can make some bank somewhere and extend his career.
     
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  16. Vox Ferrum

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    He may ask that, but I doubt anyone is going to offer a 60 million contract. They may do something like Seattle did with Geno, but even that would be a longshot. I think he gets money, but not nearly that.
     
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  17. KnoxVegasSteel

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    Heard that too. It was Chase Daniel and he was talking about performing well in a single game. Makes sense, but where I think it might get dicey is where the backup may need to come in for a stretch of 3, 4, or more games. We saw that the last time Mason got the opportunity and wasn't able to keep the job when Ben was out and we had the whole Duck Hodges debacle. This year we saw it with Josh Dobbs where he went to MN and came into the game to lead the Vikes to a win over ATL. But he wasn't able to sustain it and stunk it up only to get benched 3 weeks later.

    Best case scenario for Mason is that he plays well and leads the steelers to a win. If he stinks it up and the Steelers don't win or win ugly and still miss the WC, then that will be the thing that is remembered by most and the inconsistency will be an issue.

    Edit: on the flip side, Trubisky seems to have done the opposite and likely lost the opportunity to win one of 32 starting jobs again in the league.
     
  18. Tiggs99

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    There is less than 10 percent chance that Rudolph will sign with the Steelers as he believes he should have been given more chances, the constant drama that is going in the locker room and competing against a home town university qb that he will lose to if the competition is close. I think Tomlin will try to get Russell or Justin Fields.
     
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  19. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    A black QB? What does that have to do with anything?
     
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  20. S.T.D

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    :puking 3::puking 3::puking 3::puking 3:
    Please No!!!!!!!
     
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  21. S.T.D

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    Exactly. If History has shown us anything....Tomlin has gotten rid of the Qbs of color quicker than the less pigmented Qbs.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    There are other factors affecting Mahomes in Kansas City. They lack reliable wide receivers and their offense tackles have struggled in pass protection. Quarterback play is going to suffer if receivers are dropping passes he is under constant pressure.
     
  23. Tiggs99

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    I think he wants Lamar Jackson 2, and Justin Fields fits. Just my opinion
     
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  24. Vox Ferrum

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    listening to the talk on radio, should they keep him or not...let the bears decide...keep out of it Mike. lol. one thing if they cut him and you offer him the a chance on a minimum, but to trade capitol for someone you literally have to give the guaranteed 5th year option to, that window is so narrow and gets expensive very fast.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Why would He want a Qb He has owned???, or a style of Qb He has owned. He knows if JuJu doesn't fumble in overtime, and the Ravens kicker wasn't so good Lamar Jackson would have exactly 0 wins against us....just like Cam Newton. So why would He even want a Qb in that type of play???
     

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