Mike Tomlin On Notion Of Misevaluating Mason Rudolph...

I thought you wanted Mitch to start

 

Trubisky was extended to lessen His cap hit. I have also read, and heard if He didn't ...they were going to release Him. How true that is I don't know. I'm only going by what I had heard, and read during that time...., but it's a fact they extended Him to lower His cost. That shows You the organization knew they made a mistake.

 

LOL Third-round picks aren't guaranteed any sort of window as a starter. Not even all first-rounders are guaranteed that much. Rudolph did get a shot. In between injuries, he was benched for Duck Hodges due to poor play.

There was no moral failing. There are no wrongs to correct. They were not unfair to Rudolph. The notion that they were is one of the sillier things that has come up on this site.

 

It shows us that the circumstances changed. When he signed the original deal, it was to be a bridge starter for at least a year, maybe more. They hadn't even drafted Pickett yet. By the offseason, they were committed to Pickett as the starter, so Trubisky's projected role had changed. He wasn't going to start unless something went wrong.

 

You can save your double talk for someone else. You also could've said they can do whatever they want.

I support Pickett when he says either I am the starter or I am not suiting up. He is fighting for and negotiating his position. That is how you become the starter. Not by earning it.
As you say Mason has not earned anything. You are correct, Mason will never earn anything. And you can double talk out of your mouth as a company man as much as you want, but Pickett has not earned sht either, and no one ever will earn a starting spot. He can continue to suck and he will be given the starting spot.

 

I agree with Tomlin. Every one of these guys that gets drafted in the NFL in every position on the team are the top 1% of the 1% of athletes. So much has to happen right for these guys to succeed. The Coaching, the fit, the scheme, the system, the play calling, the backing, the run game, the receivers running the routes correct cutely and with emphasis on every play. Not to mention how these guys are coached up, how they prepare, how they read film, their development and learning pocket presence, ability to read defenses, go through progressions, etc. Ultimately it comes down to their cond=fidence, in themselves, the system and their teammates and their confidence. I believe the differentiator right now is Rudolph is playing with confidence and Pickett is not. Rudolph never had a line or run game or deep threat while with the Steelers.That could all come crashing down if Baltimore shuts the run game down and puts pressure on Rudolph. For whatever reason none of our QB’s have done well under pressure. To me thats where their seems to be a disconnect with the scheme, coaching, making adjustments, recognizing the blitz and hot routes etc. to overcome and defeat pressure. We never had to coach up in this area before because we had Ben who handled pressure and the bliutz through his shear ability.

 

LMAO. Yes, they can do whatever they want.

Also, Pickett didn't say that either he is the starter or he won't suit up, but it figures you would buy into the fictional nonsense from that fraud Madden.

No, players do not become starters by pulling nonsense like that. They do it by showing they are the best option to help the team win.

There was no double-talk in my post. That was just a false claim on your part.

 

‘what then bothers me is if they knew they made a mistake, why did they just let trub be QB2 and lose games for them?

it’s like when a zombie bites your hand… best to chop it off at your shoulder ASAP instead of one joint at a time hoping it don’t spread.

 

yes, two games isn’t enough to say Rudolph is a good QB. But it’s enough to say he’s the best QB on the Steelers roster right now.

 

What Rudolph has proven is that he can have a long NFL career as a back up or 3rd string QB. Rudolph might not be starter caliber but he's proven he can help a team win games in the NFL.

I don't know what happened to Trubisky? Did he simply stop working to improve himself? What's clear is that the Steelers didn't get good and consistent execution out of Trubisky. The good thing is the Steelers are not tied to Trubisky after this season.

 

The notion that Rudolph was given a fair chance is far sillier...
The silliest thing is how exhausting it is dealing with you kfp fan boys... He was definitely given a fair chance & did very little with it...

 

Rosen didn't get it. Kyler Murray axed Darnold after one year if my memory is correct.

 

Of course. But the short sample size means he's probably looking at backup level contracts. Which the Steelers might be willing to pay. If some team offers him starter or even pseudo (somewhere between backup and starter) money he might want to think that through, because that can change quickly to where that next year he's a cut for cap purposes if he can't win the gig in camp or doesn't impress. Lot of unknowns for a guy like him in a new team, unless he's getting paid enough to where he's cemented as the QB1. And in that situation he has to produce which means there will be more pressure than he's feeling right now.

In the end though I think if we were to get into whether he wants to stick around it will be more about what the Steelers do with Tomlin and the OC job. Ideally they'll just bring in an established OC. If I was the GM or Tomlin's agent I'd tell him to bring in McDaniels, who everyone hates, but who has the advantage of tons of experience running and calling that side of the ball in big games and no owner will try to hire him away if he performs well.

 

Because they already had a contract. You zombie stuff made Me spit My beer. LoL

 

Basically they told him he could accept an extension with no new money to lower his cap hit, or hit the road. He took the extension, even though he didn’t get a penny more.

 

I think what Rudolph has proven is that he just might have what it takes to be a quality starting quarterback in the NFL. He may ultimately end up only being a backup, but I don’t understand why some folks have a hard time conceding that maybe, just maybe, Rudolph is coming into his own and only needed an opportunity to prove that he can be a staring quarterback in the NFL.

 

Sounded pretty foolish the first time

 

Is rooting for your teams first round pick to turn into the franchise QB being a "fanboy" Is "Fanboy" some kind of insult? Wouldn't declaring Mason Rudolph to be 'the man" make you a MR "fanboy"? I'm not sure of the rules.

 

Actually, it is the whining from Rudolph fanboys like you that grows tiresome.

He was given four years to show them something. He didn't. When he got to play, he faltered so badly that he was benched late in the season for Duck Hodges. The most recent time he got to play, he missed a wide-open receiver for a touchdown and generally played poorly in a tie against a Detroit team that had lost all of its games to that point in the season.

Pickett did more than you Rudolph fanboys will give him credit for doing, but he's also not done. Most likely, the Steelers are at least going to give him the opportunity to compete for the job next season.

 

Fanboy is a form of attack ad hominem, going after the other person rather by implying that their arguments are driven by emotion rather than logic. It is a lazy, dishonest tactic, which is why I mockingly threw it back at him.

 

Could have been even earlier if they just reached out to S.T.D. [/QUOTE]
Your man-crush is showing.

 

OR he MIGHT be STARTING caliber - we will ALL have to wait and see

 

I think the Garrett incident kept some teams away from him. That’s the only logical explanation, even before this streak, he was still better, stat wise also, than half the bums playing backup in this league.