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How good is Tomlin vs the rest

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Jan 1, 2024.

  1. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    There is that possibility, it comes with the entire team package, by theam I mean scouting, GM, HC and the rest. There was a time when the head of BC was burnt in effigy, well kind of. Reportedly he took his resignition in to Dan and said either Troy D, goes on I do, they chose the former. Now did he still have a bad season or 2 in that part of his run, yes, but also got to and won the SB, and even with a bad season after the team was still set for another run. Nothing is ever perfect, but fearing change because your HC may get an offer 10 minutes after he is let go, is baseless fear. MT may be a good coach, but that goodness has not translated to the field in a consistent manner, except he has a non losing record.
     
  2. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    And the bulk of those 60+ gotten fired. That doesn't make Tomlin above being fired his damn self, this is like calling Tomlin the tallest midget. Having playoff wins in 4 of 17 seasons is really replaceable. And before you'd ask me with whom, there's quite a few young coordinators that they would hire and keep far too long.
     
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  3. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    That's not accomplishing anything bro... come one... stop it. 3-8 post season record since the 2010 SB... Tomlin is awful.
     
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  4. Wolfepack88

    Wolfepack88 Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly what most fans are thinking. Great congrats on an awesome regular season success but the bar has to be raised when you have the most patient owner, were loaded with talent many many years and we have seemingly been mired in meh for a long time. Nobody is taking anything away from him for winning in the regular season. My definition of a great coach, just for me, is winning in the playoffs thats where you separate good from great! Its not a Tomlin vs Cowher thing either, because frankly I thought Cowher was very conservative at times and losing the amount of AFC CG at home isn't the mark of greatness either. I do give him credit for getting us there with the mid QB's we had besides Ben. They were not elite QB's by any stretch.
     
  5. SteelerNole

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    Are you calling MT a Lamborghini? Hahahaha!
     
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  6. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Oh brother you don't get it. A lot of teams eat thru coaches that have no success.

    I live in GA. They would die to have Tomlin. They're about to go on their 7th straight season of losing. Not tieing, flat out losing seasons. And they're in a crap division of a joke..... in fact every team in the nfc south would want Tomlin. Bruce Adrian took advantage of an easy division. Hence why he brought in tom Brady.

    But they're not the only crap division.
     
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  7. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    I'm calling y'all spoiled brats who don't realize what you have because it's been so good.

    It's showing that not one of y'all haters can argue with statistics. Y'all don't care the odds of 1:14.
     
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  8. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    But with those 60+ coaches in the last decade, not many of them had post season success.

    I really don't want to go thru it because of time. But I can assure you that the vast majority of them barely had anything, if anything at all to even getting into the post season.
     
  9. biggbunch68

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    Yes a game or 2 above 500 and no playoffs/ wins is just wonderful...Great job Mediocre Mike:clap:
     
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  10. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Actually 3 games won in last decade. With 6 out of ten going into the post season (maybe 7). With a superbowl and other success before that decade.

    As well being in the hardest division.

    So yeah that's actually impressive.

    In the last decade, show me how many current coaches you find with 6+ seasons that have a better post season than Tomlin. And then I'll show you how many are worse, as well how many didn't even make it to 6 seasons. And how many didn't even make it to a 4th season.
     
  11. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I agree that Tomlin is a good coach but not a great coach as someone posted earlier. I’ve never been on the FMTI bandwagon, but after 17 years I think it’s time for a new message or maybe just a new delivery by a different messenger of the same message which isn’t a bad one (the standard is the standard, etc). If the Steelers fail to make the postseason or exit early by getting blown out again, it’s an option that has to be considered.
     
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  12. biggbunch68

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    Like you said I'm not looking up the stats that's to much wrk/time...lol.........and as far as the other teams I don't care abt them..
     
  13. DJ18Baller

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    I have heard it all now. Guy can’t win a playoff game in 6 years and counting and he’s a lambo :lolol::lolol::lolol:
     
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  14. Trafalgar

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    He's the best coach at maintaining mediocrity the league has ever seen. 17 years and clock management and in-game strategic decisions are still a riddle inside a puzzle wrapped in an enigma for him.
     
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  15. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry, none of y'all hates want to, because you know you would see things that are severally not in your favor.
     
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  16. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Funny how you haters have years you want to start and end at. Dude could make it this year into the post season, win a game. And y'all would be saying week to week non sense.
     
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  17. DJ18Baller

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    Lamborghini :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
     
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  18. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    You kids would be wanting a beat up Nova.
     
  19. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I wish I had a 70s model Nova.
     
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  20. SteelerGlenn

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    For myself I’m ready to move on.
     
  21. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Even if that means 3 coaches changed. Not ever winning our division. Making two season into the WC post season with only winning a couple games. And back to back losing seasons. Maybe even 3 seasons of losing seasons in a row. Because rooney isn't going to kill a HC because his first two seasons are fails..... and that's at really good odds of one of those 3 coaches making WC to win a couple post games.
     
  22. SteelerGlenn

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    We don’t know what it means. What if it means we win the Superbowl the next three years?
     
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  23. Trafalgar

    Trafalgar Well-Known Member

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    What does this even mean?
     
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  24. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    I want a Pinto
     
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  25. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    I do get it... Stability and staleness is a great thing, until it has run its course. Tomlin could end up in DC and win a SB in 4 years and that wouldn't mean the Steelers were wrong in getting rid of him. Only in American football do people believe it's great to keep a guy that's barely tredding above water. If he coached Bayern Munich or the Pittsburgh Penguins he would've been fired after the Tim Tebow debacle. Yes it's true, some teams do give up too fast: Browns, Panthers and Commanders come to mind... But also when expectations aren't met, coaches should get canned; IE Auburn, TAMU, LSU and others firing coaches, some with better resumes than Tomlin...

    Tomlin in a nutshell is Pete Carroll and Marty Shottenheimer. We can do better and should do better.
     
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