Steelers would have been in the playoffs if...

I think the Browns win out, they have the Jets and Bengals.

 

think if raiders win out and Chiefs lose some-- Raiders win division, and would we finish ahead of chiefs in playoff chase???????????

 

too many variables from us playing loser Mitch instead of Mason we should be way better than we are but noooooooo play the loser lose every game now we are in the same stupid position as every year

 

The Raiders would need to win out and the Chiefs lose out. Steelers winning out would put the Steelers ahead of the Chiefs. Those results from both the raiders and the chiefs are highly unlikely

 

They didn’t want to pay Trubisky 7 million to hold a clipboard,

just dumb, now instead of being in the playoffs, he ends up holding a clipboard anyway and they’re almost out of the playoff race.

moral of the story: just play the best guy

 

Steelers will whip LJ and Ravens. Seahawks are gonna be the biggest test to Rudolph and Steelers practice squad ILBs and Safeties.

 

Tough division this year. Browns are 10-5, competing with Ravens for #1 seed in AFC. Bengals, what could've been if Burrow was not injured.

 

Ravens are whooping one of the best teams in the league. Not sure they're in the Steelers whooping wheelhouse.

 

Those losses are as much on Tomlin because he refused to put in Mason when had the chance.
It makes me angry at how stubborn n hard headed Tomlin is

 

And it looks like the $7 million dollar man may have cost us a playoff berth. Why Tomlin felt that Mitch has ever been a better option than Mason is beyond comprehension. He’s not the best guy to develop or evaluate quarterback talent.

 

These days, is that still a true statement? Lol

 

Before you blame Trubisky, Rudolph or KFP, remember the biggest source of our collective angst this season. Matt Canada. If he had been let go at the end of last season as should have happened, the likelihood of us having been such anemic offense all season is greatly lessened. We had a lot of close games despite having a horribly run offense. A small difference in any of those games could be the catapult into the playoffs for us.

 

he’s not the best at evaluating coordinators either, nor punters it seems,

I don’t know what he’s good for anymore, even his speeches to the press are tiresome with too much word vomit

 

That is what they thought they were doing. Why the hell would Tomlin care which guy makes more money? He thought Trubisky was better last year, which made sense given their career resumes and the fact that he had slightly better numbers in preseason even though he was facing starters and Rudolph was mostly playing against backups. I don't think it was about money at all. Tomlin is just extremely stubborn.

 

He had the better career resume. He put up better numbers against better competition in the 2022 preaseson. Then Rudolph didn't play at all in 2022 and when he hit free agency, nobody else wanted him. It wasn't beyond comprehension at all.

 

their preseason numbers were very similar, I think the contracts were the tie breaker and Canada liking Mitch’s ‘better mobility’.

Trubisky was pretty horrid last year in the reg season except for one game in relief and MR didn’t play at all, so I think your off on that score

 

Going into last year, every bit of evidence available pointed to Trubisky being better. He had a better career resume and he was better in preseason. There wasn't a huge gap in the preseason numbers, but Trubisky's were better and he was playing against starters most of the time while Rudolph was facing guys who were third-string or about to be cut.

People seem to think that Rudolph not playing last year somehow enhanced his resume, which is nonsense. The rest of the league told us that by passing on him as a free agent.

You are mostly right about Trubisky last year, but he had two good performances, in relief against the Bucs and starting against the Panthers.

There is still no evidence that he was No. 2 this year because he makes more money. Why would Tomlin care? Nobody seems to be able to answer that question.

Also, there is no evidence at all to back up the idea that Canada pushed for a more mobile quarterback. People made that up. The only thing he ever said on the topic was that he could make his offense work either way. OF course, we found out it doesn't work either way. lol

 

The mobility talk is all over the internet mentioned by various analysts in speaking about Canadas offense.

No I have no evidence that money came into play but it’s a logical conclusion; the more you have invested in a player the more you want them to succeed: it’s just simple logical conclusion; like your stock investments. Maybe it’s not Tomlin’s concern but it’s likely Rooney’s.

as far as resume, maybe what he did with the bears made Mitch look better than MR but that I’m sure started to wear off after the first season when he lost his job to KP. So comparing just their play in Pittsburg was what looked like what was happening this year when they grew impatient with Mitch - which turned out to be too late.

If he was a minimum player I still think they don’t spend as much time on him.

 

if by some miracle we make the playoffs ---we want---theand thein the playoffs we will destroy them both if not thenanyway it will be and someone or both will have hurting so lets for this to happen

 

That is speculation by others. I'm saying this notion that Canada had that preference is not supported by evidence. The only valid evidence is a quote from him saying that it isn't true.

Rooney may care which guy is more expensive, but there is no reason for Tomlin to do so and Rooney isn't Jerry Jones. He's not going to tell Tomlin which guy should be his No. 2 quarterback.

Regarding comparing their play in Pittsburgh, last year would be the relevant information. So we go back to the only apples-to-apples comparison, last preseason. There is no regular-season play by Rudolph to compare to, so you go with that and there is no reason for the change.

We agree on one thing. Tomlin was too stubborn to make the change. The salary as motivation is just silly nonsense.

 

Clearly some POOR PLAYER eval by Tomlin, but we have seen this for YEARS. we are witnessing it now with Warren and Harris, front and center. We watched Dan Moore still start at LT after we jumped up and drafted the stud LT steal of the draft, to let him ROT for 6 weeks, before he was 'forced' onto the field with a RT injury.

Tomlin makes a habit of this stuff. We could go back for many years to document it.

 

they SUCK a lot BETTER than we do!

 

Do you know Rooney personally? Or is that just speculation on your part?

Tomlin seems to have little clue about offense and it appears is more and more out of place in an offense driven league

 

If our season came down to 1 bad decision I don't think Tomlin would or should be on the hot seat. The fact of the matter is this season - like the previous 10 or so seasons - has come down to a host of bad decisions. In fact Tomlin has been stacking bad decisions up like cord wood over the past few years.

Matt Canada - The ONLY people that believed in this guy when we signed him was the Steelers front office and MT. After one season it was obvious this offense was not going to work in the NFL... yet we stuck with it. Wondering how many playoff games did we miss out on since he took over the offense? The scary part of this is we have ran off 2 offensive coordinators with a track record of winning. Tomlin is the sole reason this offense continues to get worse and worse every season.

Personal decisions have been a disaster. The ILB and O-line could not have been handled any worse than we did. QB - how on earth has Mitch stuck on this roster? Clearly our 3rd string QB is the best QB on the roster. I can live with drafting Kenny in RND 1. Yes I think that was a mistake but it's not an uncommon mistake teams make gambling on QB's. Maybe my biggest concern with that is we supposedly knew more about KP than any team... so taking him seemed like an exciting proposition. As it turns out we didn't understand his talent and ceiling at all. His limitations are obvious and have not progressed. either move on from KP or get him a new QB coach.

In game mistakes from Tomlin have been many. You all can make a list if you want.

Not showing up vs inferior talent is huge. This issue alone gets most coaches fired. Some how MT gets a free pass on this and it's cost us so many wins, so many post season implications have been impacted by our inability to beat bad teams with consistency. Losing to two 2-8 teams in a row after running out the worst QB I've ever seen is inexcusable. What other QB's did we ignore the last 2 to 3 seasons because why? This problem existed when Ben was our starter as well. how many times did we trot out horrible backups when Ben got hurt?

The consistent theme of being undisciplined and unprepared is IMO reason enough to fire Tomlin. We constantly deal with cancers in the locker room. distractions from selfish players. stupid selfish penalties, mental errors every week on both sides of the ball, poor preparation in the offseason consistently produces embarrassing performances early in the season year after year. Ownership has to make it end.