NOW ITS OMARS FAULT

I blame both. I don't like a lot of Colberts picks. I'll admit that I have the benefit of hindsight, so it's easy to criticize now. Only considering his 1st's and 2nd's, I think there's plenty of picks that just don't make sense, and I thought it at the time. Guys like Ziggy Hood, Jarvis Jones, Artie Burns, Najee Harris and several others. Not necessarily bad football players, although some are, but either didn't make sense for our team or didn't make sense where they were drafted.

Then there's the whole need vs BPA debate. I'm all for taking BPA, but if you have glaring holes on both lines, you don't draft a RB in the 1st round (I don't think a RB should ever be drafted in the 1st round anyway). You trade back or you reach a little and get a guy that can fill a hole. So many games are won and lost in the trenches and we ignored both lines for far too long. It's been 10 years since we used a 1st or 2nd round pick on the DL. Prior to Broderick, 2012 was the last time we used a 1st or 2nd on the OL. That's just too long to ignore those areas. I understand late draft picks can work out, but they often don't. That's just my opinion of course, there's more than one way to build a team, but considering both DL and OL are a mess, maybe it was neglected far too long.

Colbert made plenty of good picks, but I think most of those were made many years ago and for whatever reason, he wasn't having the same success later in his career. Too many really bad picks.

 

Burress.... good pick
Hampton.... excellent pick
Simmons... good pick
Polamalu.....epic pick
Roethlisberger.... epic pick
Miller...... excellent pick
Holmes...... good pick
Timmons.... good pick
Mendenhall.... good pick


All of Colbert's first round picks until Ziggy Hood were good to epic picks.

 

At no point did I ever consider Najee or Pickett BPA. The Najee pick was so bad considering the other holes we had and still have

 

Do you think the bad picks have translated into at least some of the issues the team is having, rather than the entire problem being Tomlin’s fault? It’s something to think about.

 

Omar yen ye Moreno

 

It was predictable as the sun rising that many members of the media will begin rallying to Mike's defense. If Mike allows this kind of locker room just like Shannon Sharpe pointed out its almost arrogant for people to say he is one of the best to ever do it and teams will line up for him. The two don't square at all. I firmly believe what we are seeing is what Mike brings to the table. Unless he steps into a well disciplined team stocked with veteran leadership you will see the same thing again unless he loses his stubbornness and decides to change.

 

Said it before and I'll say it again, there will be no peace until we have cheerleaders

 

Never said I blamed only Tomlin, but I have not been a Tomlin fan since 2011. Back then, I thought Colbert was doing a good job. Colbert gave Tomlin some incredible players and Tomlin did squat with them after 2010.

Have the failed draft picks the last 5-10 years contributed to our problems? Very likely, yes. It's all so interconnected though so it's hard to know. Dotson is very clearly working out for the Rams, so was that a failure of a pick, or did Tomlin misuse him? Seumalo was great last year but this year is struggling more. Why is that? What about Kendrick Green? He was having a good (not great I admit) year with Houston. Why are players seemingly playing better elsewhere?

The reality is Colbert is gone. I wasn't a fan of his drafts lately, but he's gone. I haven't been a fan of Tomlin since 2011. I think a lot of other coaches would have had more success with the teams we had. We're so inconsistent, always have been. The lack of discipline on this team drives me crazy too. It's been an issue for a long time.

I just want a fresh start. This team needs a culture change. Colbert is gone, now it's time for a whole new coaching staff. That doesn't guarantee success, I'm not naive enough to think that, but I think it's time to try something different. What we've been doing isn't working.

 

Colbert was too washed at the end....

 

Everyone blames colbert, but it's just much as Tomlins fault as it Colberts

 

Awful

 

Honestly it was actually the best thing for Dotson, and Omar got some draft capital. No way he was going to play unless there was injury, he would be FA at the end of the year. I liked the guy and believe with better coaching an system he could have become reliable, it not a rock, but we went other directions, mostly backward.

 

The only bad Omar decision so far (for me) is Cam Sutton walking and signing Patrick Peterson. Some of that is out of his control, have no idea i Cam wanted to stay here, or if there was serious discussion. The ILB's were actually looking like it would work, injuries were not caused by him.

 

I wrote in another post, each line position is responsible for their assignment, but you also get cues from those around you, a solid Vet can help minimize some of the younger guys mistakes, I honestly do not know much about these guys, but both centers have been in the league 5 and 6 years, the RT 9, that along with good coaching and system has helped Dotson.

 

2/3 of the world is covered by water

The rest was covered by Moreno

I saw him playing CF and waved off the LFer on a high pop up that the wind got ahold of

Moreno caught the ball in LF foul territory having passed the LFer

 

Dotson was going into the last year of his contract, his inconsistent play wasn't deserving of a second contract.

 

All the first round tackles were gone by the time they picked Najee, he was considered a first round pick, the Steelers had a need at RB Conner was injury prone.

 

Of all the higher level people, I think that Omar is the one that has shown the best results over the last year. Owner, GM, top Coaches......Omar gave us a very good draft. No draft is going to be perfect, but he plugged some holes with quality players. Most all of the 'pros' on the subject agreed that the Steelers had an outstanding draft. That is a big step up from the crap drafts we have been getting the last few years.

 

I stand by what I said. I don't agree with taking a RB in the 1st round, ever. I thought the Harris pick was terrible. RB's are easier to find in later rounds than most other positions.

 

I think you are correct for the most part. Once in a while a guy is so good it's hard to pass, Bo jackson comes to mind, but in this NFL you can find a lot of talent in later rounds, the kids from the Chiefs and Rams come to mind.

 

When i played cf in little league and pony league i was omar moreno, just a bit paler in color. I am Irish

 

Tomlin still has his hand in drafting players

 

And throw in Artie Burns and Jarvis Jones, seven out of the last ten first picks have been sub-par. That kind of hole will take a franchise a decade to dig out of. Terrible.