Has to be the end of the Pickett Era

OK, (Great clip)

Can someone explain to me why doesnt Kenny have a WR go in motion to dictate to the defense to declare zone or man?

Tom Brady did this all the time with Wes & Eidelman as we know.

 

We do have people going into motion all the time. It nor alway a pure indicator of man, or zone. The D also knows why the teams do that and try hiding it. You will see many time a guy follow to show they are in man, and then switch off with another player and go zone, and the opposite of that for example. Especially if they know what certain player You like to run out to check.

 

You are correct. Tua had a rough rookie season.

I believe the discussions at the time were about how Miami missed on Justin Herbert.

Tua was holding the ball too long, missing reads, and had a "weak" arm.

That all changed with an offensive minded coach.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38960782/kenny-pickett-steelers-oc-change-challenge-everybody


Though there's a change to the person making the calls, Pickett doesn't expect a dramatic shift in the offense with quarterback coach Mike Sullivan on the headset Sunday. Running backs coach Eddie Faulkner will take over various weekly offensive coordinator duties.

"You can't have wholesale changes at this point in the season," Pickett said. "We're going to run the system that we've been using, and Coach Sully, Coach Faulk, they're going to put their wrinkle in on it, on what they want to run and when they want to run it.

 

As I look at that play, it looks to me like a bad route scheme IMO. At the moment Pickett has to decide who to throw the ball to, both receivers are within 5 yards of each other making it hard to decipher who the two defenders are going to cover. That puts your QB in tension instead of the defense. It would be much better for the outside receiver to do a go route and Pickens to do an out route. If the go route is there, throw it, if not, Pickens would have easily been open on the out. Alternatively, you could have had Pickens angle inside on a seam route and have the QB throw it over the backpedalling LB but short of the safety.

 

Here’s Tua’s “rough” rookie yr stats:
9 starts W/L: 6-3, 186/290 64.1% 6.3yd/att. 11 TD 5 Ints

Kenny’s current yr:
10 starts W/L: 6-4, 170/281 60.5%, 6.1 yd/att. 6 TD 4 Ints.

Similar, but one big difference Tua was a 22 yrs old rookie , and Kenny is 25 now.

The supposed upside of drafting Pickett was that with 5yrs of college, he was NFL ready. He wouldn’t need the seasoning or go through the growing pains. It sure hasn’t turned out that way.

Tua and Pickett are essentially the same age, Tua is 3months older.

For those seeking hope comparing Kenny to Tua, unfortunately the comparison is not very close.

 

Maybe just my opinion, but KP is the better of the 3 we have on roster currently. I would like to see the Steelers draft a QB early in the '24 draft. If he beats out KP, KP upgrades the backup role. If he doesn't beat out KP, at worst we have the same QB room. It can't hurt us.

 

not surprised about DJ. He’s not a sharp receiver, in fact I can’t recall another receiver losing the amount of yards he loses by running in the wrong direction. He’s not clutch either. I hope they develop CA III and trade DJ for picks

 

I've been out of the loop for a while... but there will not an end to the Pickett era any time soon. Pickett gets the rest of this season and then some of '24. At least.

Are you people on crack or meth?

 

Excellent question.

 

Every morning I awake with hope of reading a new Kenny comparison.

 

The Steelers and the Steeler fanbase have done no favors for Dobbs, Mason and now apparently KP. I don't know KP's ceiling and neither does anyone else. The ridicule and negativity are not helping and could easily lower his ceiling. I believe this contributed greatly to Mason's disappointing development. Dobbs looks every bit as good as any top tier quarterback. Maybe the player just needs a solid organization, supporting cast and trust to showcase their 'true' ability. The Steeler fanbase is among the smartest and most loyal fanbase in the league. They also tend to be brutal to their quarterbacks.

 

Yea it’s because he sucks.

 

Steelers offense looks like the '99 Rams compared to the Jets offense.

There are some terrible offenses in the NFL. Steelers are one of the least of the terrible.

Jaylen Warren, thankful we have him. He's like Bettis in '99 and '00.

 

I do not take that first year into account for Tua. Fitz was the QB there, and then midseason they decided to start Tua as a rookie the rest of the way. It was weird, Fitz was doing well.

Next year, Tua got popped in the rib and missed a bunch of game with injury. They lost all games Tua missed and ultimately missed the playoffs.

Following year, last season, Tua was doing well, and then got concussed, missed a game or two, they lost those games. Then later towards the end of the season he got concussed again, and they kept him out the rest of the season and in the playoffs.

So, yeah, injuries were the issue there, but the team was competitive for the playoff run with Tua in both of those season. Pickett is nowhere near Tua's early performance level.

 

Ask Neil O'Donnell, Kordell Stewart and Bubby Brister.

You are correct.

 

Sure

The fans were the problem