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Off-season conundrum

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Nov 20, 2023.

  1. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Actually when he was coaching he did fly with the team but he said he was white knuckled the entire flight

    When he stated doing broadcasting he traveled by train I had a friend who did the same and bumped into him multiple times in the bar car

    When the network got wind of this they got him the Madden Cruiser which is now at the HOF

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  2. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Oh i so loathed him when he was on the sidelines coaching the Raiders
     
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  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Greasy sweaty long hair ranting and raving and for the Raiders

    :getsick:

    But I liked him at first as an announcer but some of his shtick got old
     
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  4. SteelReal

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    I see reading and comprehension really doesn't suit you. i specifically said:

    "If he believes in himself like I think he does he can relieve the organization of any concerns they have concerning his health and make his money at the same time because he stands to lose nothing by doing so"....

    Now where do you see that I implied that Cousins doesn't care about making his money??? ILL WAIT....
     
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  5. SteelReal

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    I did exactly what you did and have been doing because you're a know it all. It's ok when you do it, but a problem when other people do it??? Boy go log your goofy ahh off the computer. You can't even read and process properly because youre in your feelings that somebody else may be right. I'm just as much entitled to an opinion of what could possibly happen as you are plus I provided examples of athletes who came back from devastating injuries and were highly productive even in their twilight years. Now tell me where was the lie at in any of the examples i provided, or are you still going to claim somebody pulled something out of the wrong end of their anatomy just because you don't agree with it??
     
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  6. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    First sentence was absolute truth!
     
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  7. SteelReal

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    Why are you rebuilding anything? You're 2-3 players from being a legitimate contender which include a QB. They could make a real push this year if the QB was anywhere close to competent. Look how wide open the AFC is now with key injuries everywhere. You're going to be a lot closer to that with Cousins then any current player they have on the roster, or rookie that comes in. I know his track record isn't the greatest, but lesser QBs have won the SB.

    I would say they are a QB...one more solid corner....and a middle linebacker who can play the run and cover away. Maybe a solid blocking and catching TE also. People make a lot of our OL. I don't think they're as bad as other people might. The key person in the offense is being carried by the rest of the offense rather than elevating it himself and making everybody else look good around him in the process.

    PS...do you have multiple accounts on here??
     
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  8. TGH

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    Saleh might become available.
    DC candidate for our rebuild.
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    Dude, that wasn't all you posted, but keep lying if you like.
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    You engaged in an argument ad hominem again. I admit it takes some work to decipher some of your poorly-written nonsense, but I have correctly interpreted at every turn despite your false claims to the contrary.

    You gave one example, Rodgers, who isn't even back yet.
     
  11. SteelReal

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    Alright show me then where i said different. Ill wait...
     
  12. SteelReal

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    I listed multiple athletes you blind bat.
     
  13. Formerscribe

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    By the way, the part in bold is where you wrote about Cousins giving ground in negotiations and getting less guaranteed money because he already got paid. I'm sorry if you don't even understand the implications of your own words.

    By the way, it's dog-eat-dog, not doggy dog. Seriously, dude.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    I didn't write otherwise. Again, work on your comprehension. I pointed out one example, the one you have relied on most prominently, is Rodgers and he hasn't even come back yet.
     
  15. SteelReal

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    I didnt contradict myself at all dimwit. Hes going to make money regardless. Did you miss the part where i said he would get somewhere around $25-29 million if signed?? I also mentioned how the contract can add incentives if he wanted to make more. I see you left that off also. It should also be noted that if it becomes a bidding war and he should make upwards of 40 million (as some have proposed, but which is highly unlikely), he would have done more then make his money at that point. He will have broken the bank, because hes nowhere close to a $40 million qb. It should also be noted that Kirk took less money to play with the Vikings then the Jets when he initially signed with them. 6 million less which is something you said he wouldnt consider.
     
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  16. SteelReal

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    I dont need to rely upon Rodgers though. Thats how slow you are. Thats why I pointed out the other athletes.
     
  17. Steelrules

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    Well I think that’s where you may be more optimistic than I am. BTW. No multiple accounts
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    Once again, you had to rely on an argument ad hominem because you can't win on the merits of your argument.

    The question was why he would take an incentive-laden contract. You said it was because he already made his money, so he doesn't have to worry about it. Now you want to cover that up by talking about the way he used the Jets to squeeze about $9 million more from the Vikings because you know I've got you.
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    Rodgers was the one you insisted was a direct comparison, but now you want to back away from him because I destroyed your argument there. I know moving the goalposts is as close as you can get to admitting you lost an argument, so thank you.
     
  20. SteelReal

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    I already told you why I mentioned an incentive laden contract, but its not worth repeating to somebody who is apparently developing alzheimers. I stated several options that could work for Cousins and the Steelers. An incentive laden contract was just one of the options, but at minimum he would make $25-29 a year. I also mentioned fully guaranteeing the first year and making a team option for the second year, etc etc.

    He didn't squeeze anything out of the Vikings if he took less then what another team thought he was worth. You always commenting something stupid. It actually hurts your heart to acknowledge he took less money. That literally destroys everything you thought about him so now you gotta use words like "squeezed out" like he was on some slimeball ish. Not everybody is the sneaky, underhanded, greaseball type like yourself. Just acknowledge the fact you don't know how contracts work as you so bluntly put it
     
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  21. SteelReal

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    Once again you nincompoop, I used Aaron Rodgers because we're talking about the exact same type of injury. I'm more then entitled to use any athlete I want who has had to overcome a major injury. I could have used Kobe Bryant from the beginning and what difference would it have made?? He was 34 when he had his injury. Cam Akers, James Robinson and Marlon Mack are a few others. Stop focusing on being a loser and take your L gracefully. You're not winning this debate. I'll go on for days just to annoy you, because I know you're a spoiled, entitled little girl in a old man's body who refuses to acknowledge the truth.
     
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  22. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    There’s a word you don’t hear every day

    I first heard it used around 1668
     
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  23. SteelReal

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    Right, I felt like he might finally get it if words from his era were used.
     
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  24. Formerscribe

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    It's not the exact same injury. You made assumptions based on that idea, but we don't know the severity of either injury (partial tear vs. full rupture) or how each was being treated, which is why your argument failed. That led you to move the goalposts. Rodgers is a terrible comparison for a number of reasons, most importantly because he hasn't made it back yet. Kobe Bryant played a different sport and never got back to his previous levels after his injury. Injuries have ruined the career of Cam Akers. I really have to take a closer look at the other two. You keep throwing out these terrible examples that don't support your argument.

    Propping up your terrible arguments with childish insults doesn't make them better. Neither does the thoughtless misogyny. If you'd like to pay for some tutoring, I'm sure you could find a high school student in your area who could teach you at least the basics of rhetoric. Just make sure you find one who is very patient.
     
  25. Steelvision

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    Premature to write Kenny off. Give him the rest of this year and a chance with a decent coordinator.

    so concentrate on getting a center, LT, and SS in the draft, maybe pickup a vet as a backup to replace Mitch and probably Mason

    and get a real OC and maybe a DC too, (there should be no place for cronyism, which I think has been our problem with the staff) too many buddies, not enough coaches that are the best available
     

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