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My thoughts on regular season wk 10

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Nov 12, 2023.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    With all due respect, citing a source to support his argument makes him more credible, not less. Hell, we don't even know for a fact that you watch any tape at all. We only have the claim of an anonymous poster on a message board.
     
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  2. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Steelers reached on him because they needed a QB and he was a local product. Didn’t like the pick then and don’t like it now. Real question becomes how long until we cut the cord?
     
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  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I do love it when people on a message board post nonsense like this as if Pickett wasn't an elite college player as a senior who was widely regarded as a lock to go in the first round before the draft. Since Dan Rooney took over day-to-day operations of the team in 1969, when have the Steelers ever given a damn about drafting local guys?
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Well I tell You what. DK also said last year that Ben was like 100% on bootleg, and role, and half of them He was counting was not bootleg its was a scramble. , but You can believe what You want...no sweat off My back....he(the poster...I didn't read the article...because if what he said the article said about this year is what the article said its wrong)also said this year 5 of the tds were from play-action, or did you miss that??? He's only thrown 6 tds. Go watch....the other 5 are not play-action.....
     
  5. Lizard72

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    I didn't say rookie or first seasons with Ben, I said the last few seasons with Ben. How many times was the majority of the discussion about needing to use the middle of the field?

    The only difference was Ben was releasing the ball in record time and Ben still had the arm talent to fit it into some tight windows.

    Unless we see some crazy turn-around with Kenny, I'm not sure he's the guy. He'll get them to 9-8 10-7, and a playoff spot, but I don't know if he can win shootouts in the playoffs. This team gets down early, it's in trouble.

    If you keep him close in the play-offs then I think he has the moxie to get it done and win one or two, but he's not coming back from down multiple TDs against a top team in the play-offs.

    Kenny led offense isn't using your talent at receiver to its full potential.
     
  6. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    You seem disappointed. :lolol:
     
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  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I am disappointed. I'm disappointed anytime someone on this team isn't doing good, but not disappointed because I agree with someone. I agree a lot. LoL
     
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  8. pczach

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    The other thing is that I do watch tape of the games and breakdown a lot of this stuff. I don't have enough time to make a job out of it, but I understand what's going on before, during, and after a play. I then have my opinions on what my eyes are telling me I see. I try to explain things to people, but to really go in depth a large number of words and a long explanation is required. Many don't seem to understand or don't believe what I am saying. That's why I post links and stats that support what my eyes are telling me, and people can more easily understand and see it from a source they trust that has a similar opinion or statistical evidence that supports my position.

    I don't claim to know everything, but I believe what I say. I also don't expect everyone to believe or trust what I say as gospel. I haven't been here that long to have that universal trust from everyone here, plus some things really are just an informed opinion. It's OK not to agree with me on everything, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.

    Some people just want to shout down others that don't agree with them and tell them they are wrong with zero information to prove their point. If you use stats or links, they claim that you don't have your own thoughts. It's nonsense, but that's what they want everyone to believe because it makes them feel superior.

    I try to explain to people what my position is, and why. I then try to show them why I believe my position on the subject. If someone takes the time to write up a detailed post to me, I don't disrespect them by replying "LOL" or blowing them off. I certainly don't start calling them names if they post something that shows my position might be incorrect. I respond, and usually level-headed people are able to converse.
     
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  9. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I must be missing something. Who said that 5 of Picketts 6 touchdowns this season came off of playaction? The article that pczach shared says that 2 of his six were off of playaction. I've read the last few pages multiple times and can't find the 5 of 6 comment. Was it in a video?
     
  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They drafted Pickett because he was the most pro ready QB in that class.
     
  11. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Certainly not Belichick he has a losing record without Brady, he's supposed to be the GOAT, but can't win games with game manager Mac Jones.
     
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  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Watson didn't do much in the first half, if the Steelers can keep pressure on him then he will turn the ball over.
     
  13. steelersrule6

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    Moore certainly isn't elite, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's a starter in 2024 his last year under contract, Chuks will likely be cut.
     
  14. pczach

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    In post #204, the poster claims I said that, but I never did. The article says that 2 out of Pickett's 6 touchdowns have been off of play action.

    He is incorrect about that as you have seen by reading my post and the article.

    I have no idea what he's talking about or the claims he is making. He's just saying stuff, making incorrect claims, and making things up completely.
     
  15. OB1

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    I agree. Looking at Pickett play, I'd have guess his score would be mid-single digit. The classroom test definitely worked out in his favor.
     
  16. pczach

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    Stop lying about what I said.

    I never said that 5 of his 6 touchdowns were from play action. Nowhere did I say that, so stop making things up to try to justify acting like a fool and being completely wrong.
     
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  17. Formerscribe

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    DK didn't write that article.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    This is more fiction. Many analysts said that he was the most pro-ready, so people started buying into this nonsense.
     
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  19. DJ18Baller

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    He had one great year in the 5 years at Pitt (I’m a Pitt fan also) with the same coordinator in a low quality defensive league with Jordan Addison (running WIDE open half the time) You might have had him as a first rounder and you would be dead wrong like the Steelers. Apparently nobody else up to our pick had him ranked that highly either…… hmmmm

    TOMLIN has even stated that they felt more comfortable with him because they watched him practice/play in the building. It’s not the only reason they took him but if he played at Arizona with the same career no way they draft him there.
     
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  20. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    Yea in year 2 he is certainly looking “pro ready”
     
  21. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Watson may be out with ankle sprain. This sucks because I'd rather the Steelers D face Watson than the backup QB. Backup QBs look like the second coming of Dan Marino vs Steelers D.
     
  22. Steelersfan43

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    Not if this is a rookie QB...Rookie QB don't have a good record,record wise
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    Every mock draft I saw had him in the first round. All of them.

    That is how it goes, if a player is taken at a certain position in the draft, the teams ahead of that position passed on him. Duh. It is also possible teams thought he might fall farther than expected in the draft like the rest of the quarterbacks. You do realize teams base when they take a player on how good they think he is and how late they thin they can get him, right?

    Yes, they knew him better than everybody else. That isn't the same as claiming they took him just to have a hometown guy. (He's really not from Pittsburgh. He's from New Jersey.)

    By the way, I've stated many times that he wasn't the player I wanted with that pick. I had him ahead of the other quarterbacks in the draft and believed he belonged in the first round, but I wanted Tyler Linderbaum. My next option after him was Dax Hill. I was strongly against them taking Willis in the first round and didn't think Pickett would get to them later. I would have been very happy with Linderbaum in the first and Ridder or Howell in the third. (I won't lie and play hindsight here. I had Ridder ahead of Howell, which was dumb.)
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

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    Just think of all those teams that passed on Aaron Rodgers in the first round.
     
  25. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what I was eluding to.
     
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