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Best Explanation on Canada Offense

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, Nov 2, 2023.

  1. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    like music
    it's the composition of the same old notes
     
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  2. pczach

    pczach Well-Known Member

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    LOL?

    I take the time to give you a watered down version of an answer hoping you could understand.

    Maybe instead of watching games 4 times, you should learn more about how offenses are built and all the subtleties and precision involved. Whenever you can't answer me in real football knowledge, you simply rate a post as hilarious or now send an "LOL" response.

    Here is an article from 2013 talking about the drastic changes in the game from the last decade, which would have been since 2003. This is an article just about the differences in the game between 2003 and 2013. These are the changes in the game in only a 10-year period. We are now 10 years beyond when this article was written.

    How NFL Offenses Have Transformed over the Past Decade | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

    Here's a link to an article from 2019 talking about the changes in the game over the 20 years from the date of the article in 2019. It goes on to mostly address changes that defenses needed to make to catch up with what offenses have been doing to create more opportunities for plays and points. It's a 4-part article with links to the other 3 parts at this link.

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/09/nfl-defense-fell-behind-modern-offense

    Hardly any changes in football, right?
     
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  3. pczach

    pczach Well-Known Member

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    You believe too much about what you think you know.

    Yes, there are plays that have been run mostly like they have been run for decades. There are also so many other offensive schemes that have only existed for a decade or so.

    Inside of that, there are new plays and concepts that are developed and implemented every year. There is a difference between plays, concepts, and offensive systems. The fact that you don't understand that tells everyone more about what you don't know than what you do.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I tell You what show me a play that hasn't been run in the last 20 years, and I'm not talking about the pre snap dress up, and then I will believe You. Until You can do that.....Your just talking.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    This. You can dress them up, but it's still there
     
  6. pczach

    pczach Well-Known Member

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    Says the guy that does nothing but talk, claims to know everything while questioning everyone else's knowledge, and routinely says other people's opinions are dumb if they don't see or think the way you do.

    I'm sure there are a whole bunch of articles with way more knowledge than you think you have, and can speak to the developments and innovations of the game. I'm telling you that every offensive system you learn has different nuances and adjustment to help create space. Route combinations are changed and adjusted, and I'll give you a little hint.....There have actually been new plays and concepts drawn up in the game of football since 2003. But sure, you saying that all the plays are the same on a message board is what is really happening. Football hasn't changed at all in 20 years. :facepalm:

    Do you even listen to yourself when you say this stuff?
     
  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Shut up, and show the play....I'm trying to watch the game. I got better things to do besides argue with someone that gets His facts from others. Show Me a play that hasn't been run in the last 20 years, or shut up about it, or all You are doing is flapping your gums behind a screen. Now leave me be.
     
  8. pczach

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    There you go. Telling me to shut up. As if I'm keeping you from the game.......:facepalm:

    I gave you a valid football response, and you get back to me with an "LOL". Then you don't like it when you get it back.

    I tried talking football. You ran and hid. Now you have apparently got nothing, and are telling me to shut up and leave you alone? Classic weak sauce.
     
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  9. Robert

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    The QB can always play better. But, imo, KP is faced with two areas that require improvement. He has to improve as a QB while at the same time he has to play better in a bad scheme. I think he is spending too much energy trying to make a bad scheme work which takes away from his ability to improve as a QB.
     
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  10. JKLTO

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    Canada is bland, but schemed a good run game - you love to see it. Kenny is not improving. This is becoming a problem that transcends Canada.
     
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  11. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Canada know nothing about the passing game....Nothing!
     
  12. ljkjr74

    ljkjr74 Well-Known Member

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    Coaching Coaching Coaching.
     
  13. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Ok where is the play....You only told Me , and what a bunch of You kids always think are new things. Show Me a play ....not the pre snap dress up, but some actual plays that are being run that hasn't ever been run in the last 20 years. You can't do it....so respond with insults. Yes I was watching the game , and corresponding with others watching the game, and You kept writing to Me about the something that wasn't even going on. When the game is playing I only want to correspond to people actually watching. Thats why I said shut up, and leave Me alone. Show Me some of these awesome plays , or stop talking about it.
    You are being too aggressive. LoL
     
  14. GoldBurgh

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    80% of the field unused in this clowns passing game. Make the madness end !
     
  15. pczach

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    I'm not doing this crap with you again. If anyone questions what you are saying, you just try to claim others are too stupid to get what you're saying.

    Telling me I believe way too much that other people tell me? No...I listen to myself. I played the game and I know a little bit about football. Sorry if I don't agree with your rudimentary view of offense. Sorry to call you on your BS and your grandstanding.

    I make some real points and even give some links to show how much has changed, and you respond with your patented "LOL" or rate the post "Hilarious". You don't make any intellectual arguments or football points. You just tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

    You are the one talking down to people. You are the one telling me to shut up and say I'm "flapping my gums behind my screen"? Screw you.

    You act like a child. Maybe I should break out my crayons and draw up a play for you. This is several times now that you've pulled this crap. Then you try to convince everyone that you were wronged somehow when you were the one that got disrespectful.

    You respond to me, then claim I'm bothering you while you're trying to watch the game? Then cry about it and ramble on like someone forced you to participate in a message board conversation. You just got undressed and you're too immature to admit it.

    You got nothin'.
     
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  16. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Bunch of words that mean absolutely nothing. I only read the 1st line. Seen You had no play to show, and hit the hilarious button. I have little puppies in the barn that sound just like You. Yap yap yap, and it means nothing.
     
  17. shaner82

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    A play at its very core has been run millions of times in the past. The basic plays don't really change because they can't. There's only so many formations you can dream up with the same number of personnel on the field. I think what is constantly evolving though is the subtleties of plays. Like the way Miami puts Tyreek into motion, it's almost CFL type of motion. With his quickness, he's basically moving vertically as soon as the ball is snapped. It's little things such as that detail that changes from year to year, from team to team. That's why certain coaches are known for being very creative. They change the minor details of the play, which can set them apart from the rest of the pack.
     
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  18. shaner82

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    Work got in the way and I didn't really get a chance to watch the game. Did Canada build on the running game by using playaction?
     
  19. Wardismvp

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    It has too at the end of year. We have not used the middle of the field all year.
     
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  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    first off the qb has to look at the middle of the field. this isn't a canada problem. kenny is bad. kenny stares down where he is going to throw and locks on to it. we motion guys to the flats and kenny looks right at them, gives the defense time to cover and throws it there anyway. he's done it for at least the last 3 games. this offense is a FKP problem. :cool:
     
  21. shaner82

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    If it's not a Canada problem, why was it the same thing during Ben's last year? 2 QB's in a row, including a HOF QB who previously had no problem targeting the middle of the field.
     
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  22. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I was going to come here and say the same thing...

    It is not just the TE in the middle of the field that is MIA, which you can make an excuse because of Muth's injury, but where are the slot receivers in the middle of the filed???

    I really thought Allen Robinson and Calvin Austin, would have made a more of an impact in the middle of the field this year.

    Allen Robinson is older, but he is by no means completely inept.
     
  23. shaner82

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    We make it so easy for teams to sit in Cover 1 and stack the box against us. We don't send guys up the seam to attack a single high safety like we should. We need to force teams to play cover 2 or cover 3 and open things up underneath a little bit.

    I'd love to see the stats on defensive coverages against us vs other teams.
     
  24. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Ben was not the same at the end and did what he wanted anyway and we just went over kenny's problems which are many. funny that it is never the qbs fault in this. Ben wasn't very good at the end and Kenny isn't at the beginning. Kenny has at least 4 people coaching him, are they all just bad? :cool:
     
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  25. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Ben hardly threw the middle of the field his last year. I'm pretty sure he was handcuffed.

    Remember, they wanted him gone, for him to comeback his last year he had to make concessions.
     

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