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Best Explanation on Canada Offense

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, Nov 2, 2023.

  1. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    This was pretty interesting. I am actually hoping all of our issues are in scheme and coaching. It gives me hope because part of me feels like it is easier to get a good scheme and coach to a degree than it is players.

     
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  2. rmorphy

    rmorphy Well-Known Member

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    Gave me a headache!! Freaking Canada!!
     
  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Excellent video! Thanks for posting it. I don’t think it’s all Canada, because we have plenty of tape showing KP just flat out not seeing open receivers in time, or seeing them and throwing a bad ball. However, Canada doesn’t do him any favors. The scheme sucks.
     
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  4. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you, but to me I believe that is stuff under the right coach and scheme can probably be improved on. Did you see how terrible Burrow played at the beginning of the year? Nobody was questioning his talent, the Scheme or the coaching. It was a mental. I believe Picket is under a tremendous amount of pressure as a result of the terrible scheme and coaching and he is pressing it and not playing relaxed as a result. Check out my comparison of KP to Tuo their first two years stats wise before Mike McDaneils came along and turned Duo’s career around.
     
  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    What I got out of that is that man has a really nice office and I don’t need a 20 minute long video to tell me how bad this offense is.
     
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  6. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Defenses love playing against the grand wizard Canada's complicated scheme. They comment and gush about it all the time...
     
  7. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Believe me, I want KFP to be a great QB for us. We’ll see if he gets there. I think we need to see clear improvement in seeing the field and taking advantage of opportunities over the remainder of the season.
     
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  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 I am free

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    I don’t like Canada but Kenny is not showing me much to get excited about

    If you can’t find and hit wide open receivers that’s not on the OC
     
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  9. Steelresolve

    Steelresolve Well-Known Member

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    I agree KP has regressed and I feel like alot of it is mental with him. I feel like he is playing nervous and pressing it too much. It sure would be nice to have an established run game with solid pass protection with receivers who got open consistently to truly be able to evaluate KP. I know that is a little unrealistic but so are the current circumstances KP finds himself in within this offense. Perhaps if the guy were under some sound coaching in a solid scheme he would develop confidence and not be pressing it so much.
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    Wait.... a video detailing how bad this scheme is?!?! By Brett Kollmann no less.!?!?!


    SHOCKING!!
     
  11. TRUCK

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    I think it's hard to assess Pickett and even Najee in this scheme. As the video points out, the defenses know what we're going to run when we run it. That forces the offense to play perfectly when something works. Trying to play perfect and pressing to overcome a bad scheme results in poor play. It's also hard to succeed when there's no rhythm to the offense. Pickett may end up being garbage but without a competent approach to the offense, it's really impossible to assess. No QB has succeeded in the Canada offense. Even though Ben appeared washed up in his last year, his stats were actually similar to his career averages yet the offense still couldn't put up points. The theory was Canada needed a mobile QB for his offense to work. Well, he's had mobile QBs and his scheme still goes nowhere.
     
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  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    This.


    The Jacksonville game is a very glaring example. There are other instances such as some of the plays against the likes of San Fran, Houston, and even in wins against the likes of Cleveland. The problem is definitely two fold; QB and OC in this case. As you said though, Canada is an issue for he has been a continual problem.


    Problems you can solve. Issues you cannot. To solve an issue, you have to solve the origin of what ails the situation at hand; this of course being the lack of Offensive Production. Then and only then can you make the issue into a problem that can be solved.


    We all know what the issue is. The bigger question now is will Kenny Pickett transform himself from a problem than can be fixed into an issue that cannot?! Time to find out... starting tonight.
     
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  13. pastorbob

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    Kenny calls the plays then he knows where the receivers are going and does not need to find them ,which takes time the o-line does not often give him. P..S tell Canada this is not golf where the lower score is wanted!
     
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  14. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    No thought process, should have been fired at bye week!
     
  15. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  16. Formerscribe

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    I think it is fair to say that Pickett did have a strong running game and pass protection against the Titans. The offense hadn't been nearly as good in those areas in the first seven games. Predictably, Pickett did a much better job of finding open receivers. Unfortunately, his accuracy was worse than it had been all season. Hopefully, the improved running game and pass protection will be sustainable. If so, perhaps those can help him settle in and he can start making accurate throws more consistently. It is possible the ribs had an affect there, but hopefully the extra few days to heal will aid him in taking a step forward.
     
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  17. strummerfan

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    Nobody was questioning his talent for two reasons. First he was injured and second he’s proven beyond a shadow of doubt he’s capable while big k has not
     
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  18. Rush2seven

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    When I read the title, all I could think of was the scene with construction workers in Major League
     
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  19. mac daddyo

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    some of this offense may be predictable but much of it kills itself. why in the same offense can warren have a good game and najee can't? why when kenny has time can he not put the ball on the receiver? why when we make a play (in this offense) do players screw it up by stupid penalties? how many drives have these types of things stymied? that's why i can't blame near as much on the scheme over the players play in this scheme. the plays have been there to be made. drives have been stopped because of either bad throws, running into pressure when he doesn't have to, stupid penalties, missing hole available to be run through, much more outweigh the so-called bad scheme. it's not the play call usually but the execution of the play called. now next is the phantom calls from the refs. there have been a number of these that have kicked our butts. these have nothing to do with scheme but they do kill drives and stops on defense. not a coaching problem but an NFL problem. :cool:
     
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  20. Steelersfan43

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    A good OC or DC can still help enormously to be a better unit.I mean, just to look at Brian Flores with the vikings....One of the least talented defenses in the NFL this year but they are still respectable...I'm not asking the Steelers to be an elite offense but being average would have been a start...Being in the bottom 3 is unacceptable....True that in the last game vs titans, the players were more of a problem, but the 7 other games, in general, the coaching had been bad on offense
     
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  21. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Kenny isn't it. But Dumbada sure isn't. I would like to see what this offense can do with a competent innovative offensive mind.

    But don't be surprised if Popcorn rallies to keep Dumbada.
     
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  22. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    there were a lot of player problems in those games as well. some of that was injured players too. the vikes sunk some investment into the defense this year. it wasn't just flores. this team hasn't been at full strength all year. the offense is still extremely young. :cool:
     
  23. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Being young is not an excuse in the NFL...Not for being in the bottom 3 in several stats....Just another example, the chiefs defense have several 2nd year players and now they are elite so far this year even if they are young.So being young is not an excuse

    For the vikings,outside of Danielle Hunter,this is not a good defense on paper,one of the worst in the league but Flores does a very good job but you seem to think that coaches don't matter in this league
     
  24. S.T.D

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    We are 12 in points allowed, 3rd in forced turnovers, and top 10 in sacks. Over all yards means nothing, and We have been doing that with injuries at key players on the the team.
     
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  25. Steel_Elvis

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    We’re also 3rd in allowed completion percentage, tied for 8th in interceptions, and tied for 10th in both passing TDs allowed and rushing TDs allowed. All of that with a clunky offense putting our defense on the field quickly after a lot of 3and outs. There are some gaps in the defense, but it’s pretty good overall.
     
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