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Time for the Tomlin discussion

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Silverback, Oct 21, 2023.

  1. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    17 years in. Last playoff win was in 2016. The 3 after that they got shelled for 40+

    But even though I want to see a complete change from dinosaur stale Tomlin and clean house you can't always get what you want.

    These threads are played. There are the Tomlin supporters and the ones like myself who believe its time for a change.

    Art II is the issue here, he has given to much power to Tomlin. Canada is here because of Tomlin.
     
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  2. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting and a bit depressing.
     
  3. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    I did not want Cowher to leave. Kind of pissed me off.
     
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  4. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Actually I thought he did a good job. Nothing we didn't know. I think the pretty blue print sucked me in.
     
  5. Steelresolve

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    You don’t realize how good you had it until it’s gone. We are seeing that with Ben being gone now. I fear we could be saying the same about Tomlin on one side but the other side of me is ready for change as r at a bare minimum some accountability on Tomlin and some actual coordinators.
     
  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Blast fixed the problem and all is now good in the universe :drinks:
     
  7. We need a change

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    The grass isn’t alway greener. Cowher had some brutal seasons1997-2003. The fact is that Cowher and Tomlin were handed the task of going through the greatest QB to ever play the game almost every year. Payton Manning will tell you as well that his career was curtailed by the Brady train. They held the Ravens at bay most years. You may not like it and you may say it shouldn’t matter but it is a fact. Ask Ernie Els, Phil Mickelson and others what happens when you play in an era with a GOAT.
     
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  8. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Art II was constantly saying that he wanted the running attack to be addressed. So I can see him wanting a 1st round pick as a savior of the running attack. So Harris was his call i'm sure. I also think that Pickett was high on his mind due to the snubbing of Dan Marino.
     
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  9. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    Let Tomlin stay until he has a losing season. Make it a stipulation. The minute. you have a losing season YOU----are --------out --------of here.Because what he has done is an accomplishment.
     
  10. Thor

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    The units of measure we have are insufficient.
     
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  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Thanks for the article. That process has been broken down even further than that, the article sometimes circulates during draft time but as the final prep, Art is handed the names of everyone they are interested in and he will remove anyone with red flags he doesn’t like.

    It’s possible given Arts desire to have a strong ground game that he steered them towards Harris but I’ve never seen that reported like the famous Ben story which depending on who you believe may or may not have happened. Cowher denies it happened like that. I tend to believe Art, makes more sense with everything else we know about it.
     
  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    :beathorse:
     
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  13. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Darn you AQL! The picture at the top of the article should have come with a disclaimer!

    *WARNING* This article contains a graphically disgusting photo and may not be suitable for all viewers. :puking2:
     
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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Requires logarithms
     
  15. AskQuestionsLater

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    Fair enough.


    Regarding the Kenny Pickett pick, wouldn't it also be fair to assume that AR II might have played some role in the hiring of Matt Canada given how he was a Coach at Pitt?! Canada also played a part in attempting to recruit Kenny out of High School... so there are clues there in terms of familiarity.
     
  16. Thor

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    And a slide rule.
     
  17. SteelerGlenn

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    Sticking up for the Silver guy is not a good look.
    If you have some balance and are rational when it comes to criticism and praise of the team you’re going to fare well. If you drive everyone nuts with constant negativity and repetitive nonsense people are going to react.
    Good win today. Go Steelers.
     
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  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Check out this piece of wooden antiquity

    Even works without a battery

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  19. Steelresolve

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    I guess I never liked bullies.
     
  20. Thor

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    Who's the bully in the equation, the person repeatedly hijacking threads and attacking those attempting to have a rational discussion, or those that call them out on it?
     
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  21. Steelresolve

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    It’s really not worth commenting on anymore. I just saw everyone piling on one individual and felt bad for the guy but your right I don’t know the history of it so better off not commenting anymore on it.
     
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  22. We need a change

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    Hey! Let’s go get the guy from Buffalo! He’s killing it up there! Or maybe the Lions will fire Campbell cause they lost a game. Is the guy in Cinci fired yet?? He’s at the bottom of the division with Joey Love!! Pete Carroll has to go also!! McVey should be on the block as well and Sean Payton was probably walked out today. Fire everyone because there is a stable of Super Bowl winning coaches waitin in a building in Jersey. Let’s blow it all up and go with a state champion HS coach!!

    *I forgot!!! McDaniels is doing a knock down job, maybe we can get him!! He’s from the Belichek tree along with Charlie Weiss, Romeo and Matt Patricia!!!
     
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  23. S.T.D

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    And again most are skipping over the fact that even though many have called McVay a genius coach.....Tomlin owns him.:shrug:
     
  24. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    Everyone keeps discussing if ownership had any role in the coordinators. You better believe they do, no one runs a billion dollar organization without having a say in every aspect of the business. Jerry does it in public. Most do not. They may say that he is free to hire whoever, and he can as long as they agree and he listened to the signals they put out.
     
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  25. Hardini68

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    Did I just read Gone with the wind that was long
     
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