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Who would you want as OC if the Steelers pulled the rip on Canada?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Wolfepack88, Sep 20, 2023.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I would be shocked if Canada doesn't finish the season, fans should be prepared for it.
     
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  2. THREE RIVER SHIVER

    THREE RIVER SHIVER Well-Known Member

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    This guy should have been showed the door after last season..Tomlin is the head coach, this is something that he should have been monitoring before it blew all the way up.. Canada has been consistently bad with little to no improvement , only excuses .We need a coach with an offensive background..I'm not opposed to Munchak , he would at least bring some toughness to the line and a willingness to run the ball to take some pressure off this young offense...Also not opposed to someone totally new trying to make a name for himself. We need a shake up.
     
  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Even if Canada was let go, I doubt they would bring in somebody from outside the organization to replace him during the season, QB coach Mike Sullivan would probably call the plays.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    What do every Qb that is struggling have in common, and always have in common????
    Go look. 97% of their fans are saying their OC sucks....their OL sucks, or they have no weapons. Even the Qbs that You don't like, and see are not playing good.....that's exactly what most of their fans are saying.
    Yes the OC sucks, but until KFP hits what's there....it will not really help. When We then see Him hit at least half of what's actually there, and then nobody is open.....then We can go back to the OC sucks....like I said the day We hired Him.
     
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  5. OB1

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    Given that it's pretty impossible for Steeler players to learn new plays in a 24 month period, I would say get a random number generator that picks a random play from the existing Canada play book.
     
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  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    Glenn Thomas; someone I have been paying attention to since the beginning of the Off Season prior to the start of the season. Glenn Thomas is the Offensive Assistant currently. That said, while he is the Assistant... how much input does he have as it stands?! That much remains unknown.


    Should this continue, I would recommended him to be the OC... but not in the way many think. Contrary to popular belief, barring extreme circumstances, Canada is likely going to finish his Contract out then be jettisoned come seasons end. To that end and again, something I have proposed; increase Glenn Thomas' involvement with Game Planning and reduce Canada's. That is the only way something like this can be resolved without looking elsewhere in 2023. Back during the final days of Keith Butler's career, it was reported then confirmed that Tomlin mainly handled Defensive Play Calling.


    What will be more intriguing to me is if both Matt Canada and Glenn Thomas are let go following the conclusion of the 2023 Season. Given how both were Tomlin hires, I wonder what the likes of AR II, Omar Kahn and Andy Weidl would do?! Outsourcing an OC would be the good play but I would imagine that there is going to be more input from both AR II and Omar this time around; Weidl the same. Never mind both letting go though. Tomlin's Contract is still not extended and while Omar doesn't believe this is it for Tomlin... that isn't Omar's call. Mind you.. this is what AR II stated on January 27th, 2023;


    "I don't like to speculate on our coach's contract," Rooney said. "So, we will see."


    Tomlin still doesn't have an extension; an oddity as those things are usually completed by mid to late July. His was not. :eek:


    Could this be it for Tomlin?! Time will tell.
     
  7. oldschool

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    But the O-line is playing like a dogs ass too - which in my eyes is really spooking Kenny and the pocket collapsing so much.

    The line is still under the guise of Canaduh too, no?
     
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  8. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    We can start with bugs bunny, daffy duck, micky mouse etc..... all could do a better job
     
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  9. Steelrules

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    Problem was that we started to win. This gave the false impression that the Canada system was turning the corner and starting to work.
     
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  10. Steel_Elvis

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    More than 1 thing can be true at the same time. KP can be playing poorly AND Canada’s play design, game planning and play calling can suck AND the pass protection can be poor. In this case I’m seeing all 3 of those things through 2 weeks of the season.
     
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  11. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don’t really know much about Thomas (or Sullivan for that matter), but I think that the approach you outlined is probably what would need to happen during the season to preserve any semblance of continuity. I can’t see bringing in an outside coordinator with a new scheme mid-season unless we decide to cash in our chips and look to next year.
     
  12. THREE RIVER SHIVER

    THREE RIVER SHIVER Well-Known Member

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    You are absolutely correct! Smoke and mirrors
     
  13. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    The Steelers played 2 of the toughest defenses to start the season. Raiders will be another big challenge but I think we will see a more balanced offense this Sunday. I’ve come to realize that MC is not going to be replaced any time soon and that I am not in panic mode as some others on here are.
     
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  14. SteelersFanIrl

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    It’s an interesting question and there probably isn’t anybody external readily available at this stage of the season. There is also no way of knowing whether things would be better under Sullivan and Thomas. We can say that things couldn’t be worse but we do t actually know that.

    The team always has the option of moving Canada aside and keeping him on staff rather than having him suffer the humiliation of a midseason firing, and I expect that’s the route they’d go if they decide that a change is needed.

    They have played two very good defences to date but if the offence doesn’t produce something over the next two games against the Raiders and Texans you’d have to think that Canadas current position is untenable and at the very least they’d take the play calling duties off him.
     
  15. Brice

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    The Steelers can bring in someone from outside to fill the vacant "Assistant Head Coach" position if they wanted to not fire Matt Canada.

    I remember when Tomlin "demoted" Keith Butler and took over the Defensive play calling during the season a few years ago.
     
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  16. Steelrules

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    Yes. I don’t think there needs to be implementation of a new playbook. The existing playbook may work if someone is smart enough not to call the same play eight times. Then again, maybe the existing playbook only has a handful of plays
     
  17. Steellamb86

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    I would think it would need to be a pretty smart guy...someone that can digest all that has been done, all the players we have and come up with some small changes
    at first that help the guys we have and then implement better more creative plays as the season moves along. That said, I have no idea who fits that bill.

    They should have fired him last year and brought in either Bieniemy (now in WA) or Moore (now in LAC).
     
  18. S.T.D

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    Exactly what 97 percent of all struggling Qbs fans are saying right now, but You know what's funny....is when We look at the other teams saying this, or they look at us....most are saying.....man that Qb sucks.
     
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  19. Brice

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    You know, It is funny to me that I could never figure out if John Mitchell was the "Assistant Head Coach" or "The Assistant to the Head Coach" as to where he fit in the coaching ranks of the Steelers Front Office.


    Looks like they went 20 years without an assistant head coach back in the day.
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  20. Vox Ferrum

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  21. Vox Ferrum

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    Just heard him comment on preparations, he said they show the vids, lay out a gameplan, but during the game I just have to play it as I see it. In other words I will do my own thing like I did in my back yard as I was great doing it lol. A guy like this will not only get others canned, but his time in the NFL will be very short lived.
     
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  22. S.T.D

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    So now the Defensive coordinator of the Bears is at fault because their Qb sucks a$$.
     
  23. Steel_Elvis

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    Oh… so it’s 100% Pickett and 0% anyone else. If Pickett were performing ok we’d have the NFL’s best offense despite the lack of holes for the run game, and mediocre pass protection. Got it. Thanks for correcting my dumb old self with your superior football IQ. :thumbs up:
     
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  24. Vox Ferrum

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    It very well might be true, but it also can be true in all 3 aspects. KP looked like he was developing, perhaps lessor competition, but he was going through progressions, the ball was pretty much on target. Something happened, and very quickly that he regressed back to old habits. Whatever that is, they and he need to fix it quickly. If its simply he has reached his limit and regresses from pressure, or whatever combination, bottom line someone needs to take control of this situation. You cannot leave a D on the field that long and expect anything but misery as the season goes on.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Having Reading difficulties????
    Where, and when have I ever on that post , or any post blamed KFP for everything. When????
    Yes if a Guy is open ,and You don't see it..., or You see the guy but completely miss Him....yes that is the Qb...
    I do believe I was the one saying Canada should never have been hired Back when we hired Him....go look.., or didn't You read that back then.....I believe I was the one telling people that it wasn't Ben ....it was Canada.........Tell Me who was the one saying Canada was good , and it was Ben's fault for not being able to run his system.....please remind us of that???....because We know it wasn't Me.
    I just find it so funny that all these people that argued with Me about Canada then....are now blaming everything on Canada now. LoL
     

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