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So how long until Canada gets let go…

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel_ben7, Sep 11, 2023.

  1. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Talking about that game specifically. Ya’ll just desperate to pin everything on Canada.

    Believe it or not, player execution is fairly important. Houdini couldn’t have made Pickett look good last Sunday.
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Because your argument has no merit when there were players open all game. Maybe Canada needed to put in a game plan that would have allowed Pickett to run up to each receiver and hand them the ball at the end of their routes.

    You’re trying to hard to put this on Canada and ignoring the obvious, Pickett sucked. End of a story.
     
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  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Who is trying to put everything on Canada? Not me. Your claim that he wasn't any part of the problem, however, is ludicrous. Poor planning leads to poor performance. Sunday's plan was poor, and as a play-caller, it seemed as if Canada panicked. How do you not realize that played a part in Pickett's struggles? It wasn't the only reason they played poorly. Pickett certainly deserves his share of the blame. So does the line. But to say Canada played no part in the offense's failures makes no sense at all.
     
  5. Formerscribe

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    There were not players open all game. There were players open after they fell down by double-digits.

    In no way am I ignoring that Pickett sucked. He was terrible. Some of the reason for that was likely internal, but not all of it. Canada's lousy planning and panic-driven play-calling was a contributing factor.
     
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  6. groutbrook

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    The Steelers win and/or lose as a team in my eyes.
     
  7. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I give, and I think you need to as welll, Scribe. Matt Canada obviously had a game plan for the ages on Sunday. He had a game plan that would have made Shanahan’s game plan look like Pop Warner. He had a winning game plan, no doubt about it, and the fact is Kenny Pickett screwed it up! Doesn’t matter that Canada’s offensive game plans up to this point in his NFL career has resulted in a total of ZERO 400 yard games when every other team in the league has at least three during that span and nine teams have done it at least ten times. It doesn’t matter that the Steelers have failed to reach 20 points in 24 of their last 36 games under Canada’s brilliant offensive game planning, more than that if you throw overtime out. Doesn’t matter. What matters is Sunday, yes Sunday, he had the game plan and little hands Kenny screwed the pooch! Our quarterbacks have been Canada’s problem all along. Canada is obviously the greatest offensive mind since Bill Walsh and it’s time for us to admit it!
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You obviously haven’t watched the film breakdown STD posted. You can be a stubborn mule about it but you are flat out wrong. He had players open from the get go.
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It’s not our fault you can’t separate two different arguments. I don’t know how many different ways STD and myself have to say that Canada is a bad OC, STD was saying it long before you were Jack but you guys are just hellbent on trying to make that loss about Canada.
     
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  10. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    :facepalm:
     
  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Yeah right

    Good luck with that based on who you are replying to

    :smiley1:
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You’re right about that! Won’t be over until I walk away, Scribes stamina is incredible. :lolol:
     
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  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Always the last word
     
  14. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Lord don't I know it. You can be totally correct, but by the 20th day of arguing with Him You are just like....F**k it....I don't care anymore. LoL
     
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  15. Formerscribe

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    Please don't misrepresent what happen. I can separate those arguments. Unlike you, I also realize that poor planning by coaches usually contributes to poor performance by players. It isn't your claim that Pickett was bad that I dispute. It is your claim that Canada's poor planning and panic-driven play-calling had no role in that at all that I find ridiculous.
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why are you responding to a reply I made to JackAttack and acting like I said that to you? Get a grip, dude.

    The part of that post that applied to you both was being hell bent on trying to put blame on Canada. Thats what is ridiculous.
     
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  17. HeinzMustard

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  18. Silverback

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    Wait, I want to just get this straight: You aren't putting any of that fiasco on Canada in any way? The 8 plays where he called the exact same pass play? Just checking.
     
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  19. Blast Furnace

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    I’m saying Canada could have had an a+ game plan and wouldnt have made a difference. Pickett was the primary culprit.

    It doesn’t get any easier to the throw over the middle for a walk in TD that he missed DJ on. Pickett was awful. Coaching won’t overcome that.
     
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  20. JackAttack 5958

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    Having players open, especially someone like DJ who's pretty darn good at separating, does not equate to an effective gameplan. :shrug:

    Stubborn mule? You're starting to sound like my wife! :lolol:

    EDIT: Don't know why I thought you were calling me a stubborn mule. I see that you were addressing this to Scribe. And you're right, he is a stubborn mule. ;)
     
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  21. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    What we have here...is a failure...to communicate.

    I'm not saying the loss was JUST on Canada. That was a pathetic team effort all the way around. But...you guys seem to be absolving Canada of any blame for that debacle (as Emmit Smith would say..."we got debacled!").
     
  22. JackAttack 5958

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    That's okay...I responded to a reply you made to Scribe. You've got us all bumfuzzled, Blast! :lolol::lolol::lolol:
     
  23. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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  24. METALMAN_68

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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay/_/gameId/401547405

    Here's the play by play for those who don't want to watch the replay. I'll stand by my opinion that they didn't stick to the run. Out of 6 possessions in the first half, they ran on 2 first downs and threw on 4. Only 5 total runs in the first half, 6 with the jet sweep. I don't hate the play, just maybe question the timing of it.
    The Steelers got themselves off schedule with negative plays. -2 yard run by Najee and a 5 yard loss on a pass to Warren are examples. Sacks killed two of the drives, with a holding penalty putting them in a 3rd and 20. In my opinion, the 5th drive seemed to be the only one on schedule as far as play calling, with 2 runs on first and second down, leaving a 3rd and 6. Completely manageable until Kenny sh!t the bed again. I really only went through the first half because I feel the game wasn't out of reach at 20-7.
    Either way, for a team trying to get back to physical, smash mouth football with a young QB in his second year, 5 runs in the first half is simply not enough. Put that together with the fact that Kenny couldn't convert a third down to save his life, and voila! Sh!t sandwich.
    I believe we can all agree that there had better be a bigger focus on the run game because they simply can't trot Kenny out there and ask him to throw all over the yard. Especially after last week.
     
  25. CK 13

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    While I agree that they need to run the ball I still believe that the pass should set up the run. The first play out of the gate was a 5 yard completion to Pickens. I thought OK maybe we will see a different direction. 2nd play, Jet Sweep. Where that would have been an opportunity to run the ball there maybe getting 3 yards or so. It was a garbage start sans the 1st play that ended in a garbage ending. They did have one nice 95 yard drive leading to the TD. Then they come out after halftime and bang! get scored on again.

    I don't expect Pickett to play another stench laden game. Or the offensive line to be offensive. They need a solid balance. Issue is can Canada actually script a solid game plan? I'm not that confident.
     

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