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Better Play design probably helping Mcfarland

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by PWP, Aug 7, 2023.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Of course, the Steelers have a history of caring about such matters. Just ask Le'Veon Bell. Oh, wait...

    Jaylen Warren only had 103 touches last season. Give him 50-to-100 more and that's a much more reasonable workload for Harris. Also, if they open up the offense even a little, that would also mean fewer touches for the running backs.
     
  2. Silverback

    Silverback Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and even with cutting Najee's touches down, Warren will pick up a lot of those. And so will Austin, Pickens, Muth and maybe Washington. I don't see McFarland picking up all that many, unless his ypc skyrockets.
     
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  3. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    I think Warren should get more as well plus if we convert more and continue drives more then there will be a lot more snaps to go around Warren is good , but he is more Najee and less Scat RB .. You do know that the Scat game is a specific type of Offensive attack ? If yes then you know we basically ran none of it with Ben .. Our OC has a complete Scat playbook the essence of the scat game is Speed over Power some would or will call it a nascar package ..Get as much speed on the field as you can forcing the Defense to play smaller or get burned ..What if they don't have good players who are smaller to insert ?
     
  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Bell wanted less work and more money

    And that worked out well for him

    I had an employee once tell me he would work harder if he was paid better

    In response I gave him the opportunity to prove this …… elsewhere
     
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  5. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I was referring to them using Austin quite a bit on offense, not McFarland. Hence, why I said they may not want to use Austin on both kick off and punt returns. I may not have been very clear with my wording but if you look closely, the comment you're responding to if mine was a direct response to jeh about Austin.
     
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  6. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    His only game last year he averaged 5.0 YPC the 1st. year of a non Ben system I can't get you guys to see that no way could McFarland look good in that system and the Coaches didn't want to pile the rookie QB with a bunch of different Offensive approaches ..So You put your Scat RB on the scout Team where he gets the reps he needs and learns to follow his blocks wait until OTA'S and Off Season work install the scat game ...

    Proof is what his Coaches and Team Mates say including his QB .. Proof they really brought in no competition.. More Proof a report almost everyday of Anthony making great catches and burning LB after LB ...
     
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  7. Silverback

    Silverback Well-Known Member

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    Ahhhhh, I prefer "proof" be on the field in games that matter. Call me weird in that way. THAT proof I will gladly accept and rejoice over.
     
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  8. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct, we really have no idea. Doesn't mean I have to like the decision any less.
     
  9. PWP

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    I don't think Coach thought that much of Bell .. Harris has stated that Coach is like a father to him , Harris be eating dinner with Coach a lot.. The market was not busted for the position the way it is now.. Coach will not do what he used to do , he even said that already .. Hard to be a players Coach if you take a position already hurting for value and decrease the value of your guys at that position .. Who wants to play for that Coach as a RB ?
     
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  10. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Correct, the proof is that he sucked his first 3 years in the league.
     
  11. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    Not a decision if his Boss told him to.. The only thing we know for sure is he did get the job so my take is if you don't follow directions or make bad decisions you usually don't stay employed long or get the promotion if you will as this is more like that.. So evaluation games a Coach trying to evaluate a Unit yep smart money is on bring it out no matter what..
     
  12. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Again, you are making the assumption that Tomlin told him to do so. That is something you cannot know.
     
  13. PWP

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    No I think his ST'S Coach told him to , yes speculating a bit , but it seems like what a Coach would do ..
     
  14. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    https://steelersdepot.com/2023/09/2023-stock-watch-rb-anthony-mcfarland-jr-stock-up-4/

    I'll do the legwork for you. I'm not arguing that it's not logical for the coaches to have told him to do it just to see what would happen in the preseason. However, if he takes one out of the end zone 5 yards deep in the regular season, I'm probably losing my sh!t.
     
  15. Silverback

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    A lot in here are making endless excuses for his lack of production; we will see if he all-of-a-sudden produces huge gains this season. A well over a 5 ypc #?.
     
  16. PWP

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    What if he takes it 2 the house will you have to crap twice ?
     
  17. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Man, you are an argumentative fella aren't you? Let's not be ridiculous about this, if he takes it to the house I'm excited. If he takes it 5 yards deep and doesn't make it back to the 25, I'm disappointed. Just like with any kick returner on the planet. Is this something we can agree upon?
     
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  18. PWP

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    That was more of a joke ,,,crap when he brings it out and then crap again from the excitement ..lol


    Yes we can agree ,,The same with all plays when they work it's a stroke of genius and when they don't how stupid of a call was that..lol
     
  19. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Well, as a precaution I usually wait to crap my pants until I see the result of the play. However, there would probably be some premature screaming from the couch as he emerged from the end zone.
     
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  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That doesn’t show YAC which is 8.2. This is another classic example of fan perception not living up to reality.

    I’ll take 8 yac catch if thats falling down every time.
     
  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He played 14 games and almost all of them in his rookie season. Twist it however you want.

    I’ll let the coaches know you don’t approve. In the meantime I look forward to seeing what Mac can do.
     
  22. METALMAN_68

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    I think the best comment I've seen on this thread feels about 32 pages back but to sum it up, it said that hopefully Canada will even be able to scheme up mismatches with McFarland, let alone any of the other weapons the Steelers have. That is still one of the bigger questions that will need answered on Sunday.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    I don’t think we will see many carries by Mac, the bulk of his use is going to come in receiving work. They like his ability in space and feel that is where he can do the most damage.
     
  24. PWP

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    I agree but if he can have success on a Draw, Zone Read , and a Quick pitch that will be huge as then he will be able to be in on more situations...Forcing the Defense to Guard him with LB'S instead of going Nickle or Dime everytime he comes in ..This also opens up the screen and swing pass game from the backfield some success is needed as a runner to stretch the Defense and force them to defend every blade of grass..
     
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  25. Formerscribe

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    Please stop implying you have some special knowledge that I or others here lack. You don't. You have a history of ridiculous man crushes that lead to obsessing about how particular fringe players would be stars if the Steelers just used them right. Warren can do what you are talking about if the Steelers feel the need. If they want to go with speed, they can use Warren, Johnson, Pickens, Austin, and Robinson. Those guys can all make big plays and they are all better players than McFarland. It would be incredibly foolish to spend the prep time and waste the in-game snaps on a special package for a scrub like McFarland.
     
  26. PWP

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    not special knowledge ,but I do have a playbook that I created for the Scat Game I see a bunch of similar stuff more and more each year ..So my question was a serious one ..Some have no Knowledge of a Scat Game verses a Shotgun Formation attack vs a Single Back formation vs, a Ace set vs. the spread all of which can be run with different type of RB'S but certain traits translate better to certain attacks..

    For example Ben was the Shotgun guy with Single set back and spread concepts sometimes a TE would come in to help protect ..The main goal of that O was to protect him with bigger types in the backfield so he could read and scan the field and have more time to throw..

    The Scat game is a quicker read Offense that employs more speed , throwing screens , swing passes and draws it uses the speed as the blocker not asking the QB to read the entire field it is usually a lot of motion to determine the coverage and identify the weak spots and the mismatches..

    So what you call a scrub I call the star of the Scat game if you don't see how his extra speed and elusiveness makes him more valuable in that regard it does lead me to believe you really don't understand the Scat game...
     

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