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Is the jet sweeps play has too much hate?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Aug 8, 2023.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    The steelers had 5.5 yards per run last year with this play.



    I have a lot of problem with the Matt Canada offense, but the jet sweep may not be one of the problem despite all the hate for this play...

    You thought?
     
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  2. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with having it in the arsenal, but to use it as a staple is pathetic.
     
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  3. MojaveDesertPghFan

    MojaveDesertPghFan Obscured by clouds

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    Interesting thread name. :rolleyes:

    But no - nice play to have when needed, especially with 8 in the box. Obviously the play has been tipped in the past with varied success.
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Jet Sweeps are the new bubble screen, people used to rage against that all the time and IIRC it also had positive results overall.

    It’s the classic perception vs reality.
     
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  5. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    Thread title:rolleyes:
    ;+)
     
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  6. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    There was a time there where it felt like the Steelers were running the bubble screen every third play
     
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  7. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    I knew an old English teacher who would get violent if she saw this thread title, LOL.
     
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  8. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    Lucky ewe
     
  9. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    3rd?
    I'll take your word for it.
     
  10. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    Penn n Teller in da house
     
  11. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    I was listening to some analyst (former NFL linemen IDK) on Cowherd (despite that I took note). They were talking about newer NFL QB's and their success or lack there of, one of several things came to mind about Canada. The guy said anyone can call a play, but not everyone is a good offensive game planner. To be a good planner you need the intellect and cunning to prepare for the variety of different D's you face weekly, know the personnel on both sides of the ball, and work that plan to your strengths. That seems generic, but so far Matt's game planning lacks the skills needed at this level. That may be in part because the players he has were so young and inexperienced, or lacked the talent or development to do much more. His 'JV' attack has been critiqued by players, and others in media, so we will see. I read a report this week (can't find a link) that stated the O still looks very weak and "JV" (my term), I guess the proof will come once the season starts, the talent around him is real..and good, does he have the talent to plan a winning strategy?
     
  12. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, my stupid mind could not think of that play lmao. I would not say every third play, but if I was a betting man I would call it buy the 3rd play in nearly every game, lol.
     
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  13. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    #feltlike

    Don't invalidate my feelings.
     
  14. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Like the chiefs
     
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  15. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Well..they do have Andy Reid, lol.
     
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  16. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I’d like to see it about 10 times a season instead of maybe 3 times a game. I think the real problem is Matt Canada doesn’t use a ton of different type plays therefore his playbook seems very limited. Hopefully that really changes this year or it will be a long season for this offense.
     
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  17. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

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    Ours were too predictable.
     
  18. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    No
     
  19. groutbrook

    groutbrook

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    Running a reach-around draw on 3rd and 20 also has positive results, just no first down.
     
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  20. Rel

    Rel Well-Known Member

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    At 5.5 per attempt...use it all they want.
     
  21. Steelvision

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    Its not the jet sweep itself that's the problem, its Canada's timing and overuse of it, specially when our passing game had been near the bottom of the league for most of the season. Yeah, 3rd and long and we run a jet sweep....just brilliant
     
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  22. Steelvision

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    that 5.5 is misleading. Rams were right behind us with 5.2 on those jet sweeps and they were last in the league in total offense.

    Unless the light bulb miraculously comes on for him this year, i hope Canada is gone
     
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  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yes im sure the 5.5 average is a result of being run on 3rd and 20 all the time.
     
  24. groutbrook

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    I stand corrected.
    JET SWEEP TO THE SUPER BOWL!!!
     
  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    No middle ground with you, all extremes!
     

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