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Will Canada improve ?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by ljkjr74, Jun 10, 2023.

  1. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    If I exclude the 2 games against the steelers, the jaguars had scored only 73 points in 5 games (including the 2 playoff games against Bills and Pats) against playoffs team in 2017
     
  2. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    And if I stand on one leg and scratch my balls I look like john holmes

    if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas
     
  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    My point it was just to said the Jaguars were not that good on offense against playoffs team.They were just good against steelers
     
  4. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I still can't believe you still defend this performance by the steelers defense vs Jags because Ben had 2 turnovers....Brady had won some playoffs game with 2-3 turnovers
     
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  5. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    They were top 10 offensively and defensively that year
     
  6. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Brady was a better qb than roethlisberger
     
  7. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Their offense were awful against good competition
     
  8. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    So you’re admitting we weren’t good competition
     
  9. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    You love to ignore my point.It's ridiculous at this point
     
  10. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    It's not my fault if I always have to re-write the same things for that you understand.If you think that 73 points in the 5 games against playoffs team no named the steelers is good, you have a major problem
     
  11. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    And it's not just with me you struggle to understand a point, it's with others like with pczach 2 pages ago on this thread.You still think the jaguars offense was that good but for me I always look at the context.But hey,this is impossible to win with 2 turnovers on offense in the playoffs:facepalm::lolol:
     
  12. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    it’s not impossible, but your chances of winning go down exponentially. There are several decades of data to support this. Win the turnover differential you win the game 78% of the time. To put it another wayfor you just under 8 times out of 10. So put your facepalm in your pipe and smoke it. As for that guy you mentioned I’m still waiting on him to back up his claim. Being that it’s been 24 hours it should be abundantly clear he doesn’t have a source and can’t back it up.
     
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  13. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    When you have 2 turnovers, the chances to win is not great, but the chances to win a game by giving 31 points against the number 1 defense in a cold weather game are much lower

    From 2006 until the end of his career, Brady won 7 playoff games with at least 2 turnovers by him and no that does not mean that Roethlisberger was better than Brady but that at some point a team needs to overcome some mistakes in the big games, since it is impossible to always be clean especially against defenses which are great at creating turnovers and you are behind in the scoreboard from the first snap of the game

    Overall, the steelers offense had a great game against the jaguars defense and that should have been enough to win against their weak offense which was awful all season long against the other playoffs team

    The steelers defense haven't done anything positive in this game...

    Stopping the run? no
    Give some big play? yes
    awful in the red zone on defense? yes
    have a sacks? no
    have a turnover? no
    Good on 3rd down on defense? no
     
  14. strummerfan

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    How many turnovers did the patriots defense create in those games? Turnover differential

    you can’t just use half the equation and call it good.
     
  15. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Many...And the steelers had 0 vs Jaguars,it was a major problem for this defense but not their biggest in that game
     
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  16. S.T.D

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    No coach is perfect. If You want You can pick holes in every single one of them. Even the past HOF coaches.
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    My Friend both can be true here. You keep saying about the fumble, and the int, but what about all the TDs He scored. Everytime We pulled in close our D would give up another huge TD drive. Both sides of the team let us down....plus people don't remember how good the Jags had been that year. If the refs don't save the Patriots again that year in the AFC Championship....the Jags go to the SB that year. Anyway....it's all in the past.:thumbs_up:
     
  18. S.T.D

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    This Bro:thumbs_up:
     
  19. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I’ve said multiple times in this thread they were top 10 in offense and defense that year. We had just lost shazier and matakevic and tried replacing them with a guy off the street. The jags were the better team on that day. Would things have been different with shazier? Probably, but we will never know since he never played again after 12/7/2017. What we do know is we gave them 14 points via turnover. You’re going to lose the majority of those games.
     
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  20. strummerfan

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    Since this topic has gotten way off track.

    will Canada improve? That’s saying he was our only problem in 21 and 22. Looking at it objectively nothing could be further from the truth. We had a revolving door along the oline in 21 and a washed up #7. In 22 we had new issues along the offensive line. A slot wr that should have been an absolute beast, but he chose another route and got himself shipped out of town. Two different qb’s one of which was a rookie. Would a different oc have changed things drastically? Highly unlikely
     
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  21. Steelersfan43

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    Of course, Canada was not the only problem, especially in 2021, but he needs to create more easy layups in this offense, which many offensive coaches are able to do in the NFL. The frustrating thing I find about this offense, especially the passing game, is everything seems tough for the QB and very few receivers are open...Canada needs to be much better at that.

     
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  22. AskQuestionsLater

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    I mean... I can run sideways as opposed to upfield though!!!


    That counts for something right?!
    :lolol:
     
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  23. pczach

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    You are asking me for a source to a subject only you are talking about. I wasn't talking about Todd Haley, not ever...you were.

    You bring up Todd Haley, which I wasn't talking about. You remember an earlier incident with Ben running a play not in the system at the time under Haley, yet you want me to get a source for something that you are openly talking about in a reply to me.......you bring that entire incident with Haley up and talk about it.....and I wasn't talking about Haley. Haley is just another example in a long history of Ben running plays outside the system.....and once again....you brought Haley up....not me. But you want a source to something you brought up and are openly talking about. :roflmao:

    What's wrong with you? You just keep picking fights with people, demand they answer all kinds of questions by you.....but you won't answer or respond to anything that people ask of you. You just ignore any points or contentions that others bring up to you.

    Wow, talking **** about me in a response to another member here. I guess that's just your style.

    Other's warned me about you, saying this is your schtick, your MO. They were right.
     
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  24. forgotten1

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    "Put facepalm in pipe and smoke it"
     
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  25. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Holy ****!

    you claimed Ben was using old plays. I pointed out it happened over a decade ago under Haley and he clarified his comment. You brought it up again and I pointed out again it was under Haley over a decade ago. Asked for a source for your claims and you still haven’t provided one. On more than one occasion in this thread you’ve posted something trying to prove a point. They don’t!
     

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