It sure is weird…After all these years with Ben

He's a wimp.

 

I was about to type that

 

great minds
nvrmd i'll see myself out

 

He was injured running one.

 

And Ben ran plenty of sneaks during his first 3-5 years. But it stops making sense to put the body in that position after a certain age. As you noted with Mahomes. I bet Andy Reid has not run a QB sneak in practice on 6 years.

 

So he quit running them?

 

There was a story that Ben ran a sneak against Washington, and he suffered a neck injury IIRC, after that he didn't do it much.

 

you use that term take off and RUN quite loosely when referring to what ben did.

 

Take off and lumber

 

I never played Qb, or offense, but if I was a QB ....the only place I'd run one would be Goal line. I'd tell them ....I'm a Qb for F**k sake....that's why You have RBs, Wrs, and FBs. They can't read the field, the D, and throw like Me....let them do their job , and I'll do mine.

 

I'm a huge believer in "the way is in the training" seeing KP doing this serves one purpose more than any other and that's no one player is above another. Qbs train the same as defenders. It's solid team building. Now not to say that certain players don't earn some special accommodations but we are beyond Ben's day now and everyone should partake in the teams practice.

My son really got into soccer and the world cup before Christmas and he wanted to be in the summer league so we signed him up for the U12 group. I take him to practice three days a week and they started away games on Mondays two weeks ago. Now I fully admit I know little to nothing about soccer but in watching practice I'm just about ready to go full soccer dad on his coach. His coach also runs our towns soccer program so you'd think he knows what he is doing but nope. My daughter goes you don't know about soccer dad, and I told her but I do know team sports and how to go about basic skill practice sessions. My son's coach has them pair up and stand 5 feet apart and kick the ball to each other. The drill serves no purpose. After getting their butts kicked at last Monday's games they stood for an hour in a big circle for monkey in the middle at Tuesday's practice. It's all so unfocused and has little to do with learning the game. Heck the U8 kids that practice on the next pitch are way more organized with drills that reach them skills and the minikicks group are actually taught set plays. Practice should serve a purpose and it irrates me when it doesn't.

 

I think the problem with Ben's attempts at sneaks was that it became obvious that the refs weren't going to protect him in the pile and liberties were taken. You look at Brady on his sneaks he gets low, gets to the ground and generally his guys try to shield him from taking more abuse. Jackson is just as likely to bounce outside and go the distance so you can't Hog pile on him. Mahomes in the rare instance they need a half yard will more likely try for a modest game than a sneak. Josh Allen in the highlights I've watched has been a mixed bag of jump over the pile, Burrow into the pile, get low like Brady or get bent like a pretzel trying to stretch over the line.

I honestly believe Ben was glad he could shift the focus off doing them himself and saying Haley wouldn't let him or Tomlin didn't like it. Anything besides saying I'm not good at it anymore and I'm getting hurt.

 

Newton had 2 pro Bowls. And was really good from 2011 to 2018.

.... or is this another one of your things you think everyone sucks on a team when the team doesn't have a good post season record?

 

Correct. Even if they will never do that. It gets muscle memory in their head how the RB will run. Therefore when they go to hand off they will know to give it to the RB or hold onto it.

 

LoL
He was loved by the media, but don't get it twisted....He was never a great Qb....He had one magical season.....He also had only 3 winning seasons out of 11(what does that have to do with post season) , and also had 3 times He threw more ints then tds. So ....I guess our Ideas of good Qbs are widely different.
So sorry....try again. Do You even process a thought before You post??

 

Not arguing about anything other than....You always work on Your weaknesses....not Your strengths....in everything.
Now let's be honest. Do You think KFP weaknesses is running the ball, or reading, reacting, and throwing to the correct target on time, and correctly???
Do We make RBs do Qb drills. Everyone tells Me it's a different league......Yet .....year after year it's not the most athletic Qb that's winning the SBs.....it's the best actual throwing Qb. Hell, 20 Qbs are better athletes than , Mahomes, and Brady(only using them because of all the latest SB wins), but none are as good at the stuff You need in the pocket, and that's what KFP should be working on. I could tell from college He could run. JMO

 

And there it is you only account for what a team performance is.

He was a pro bowler his first year.... oh wait you don't care about that.

 

Ben didn't really like to practice. Ben went off of talent and backyard football. He would finally figure out what the defense was doing ... late 2nd qtr

 

Oh so much could be done with this, but I'll pass. lol

 

I think you are reading a lot into the starting QB taking part in a non-specific drill that does little beyond teaching ball security, a skill all players should work on, and conditioning. I don't expect the QB's to line up in the I and take snaps or RB's to take snaps under center, work on progressions and back corner fades. I don't think it hurts to have everyone run this drill at minicamp to build teamwork. Now if Kenny gets some late 90's shoulder pads and takes part in an Oklahoma drill or backs on backers then heck yeah we are going to call it stupid.

 

Ben was great. So thankful we had him as QB. Yeah, his twilight last years sucked, but he delivered 2 Super Bowls.

Pickett is the present and the future. And the future looks bright.

 

Again 3 years out of 11 doesn't make You great. It actually makes You average.

 

I hear You , but from that clip of KFP....that is a RB drill. You Guys it's just My opinion. I'm not say anything besides.....there are more Qb specific drills I believe He could be spending His time on. That's all. No more ....no less. I just want the Kid to be awesome.

 

LoL. Please don't. LoL

 

You new to football or just like arguing with walls? Also I didn't say one time he was great. In fact I just said good.