All time top 10 CB’s of all time

Woodson isn't the number one CB of all time, he's top 10 though.

 

True.


Even if we add more INTs to Ike's total count, having him in Canton means he would have to had outplayed Darrelle Revis; something very few Corners were capable of doing. Hell, as much as I loved Richard Sherman, I would still take Revis for Revis was capable of shutting down any WR during his prime.


For that matter, Darrelle Revis, to me, is the final example of whom I can truly define as a "Shutdown Corner". Due to the rules today, that term is all but extinguished; used incorrectly by various outlets because... money.... and reasons. The game has changed way too much for a Corner to dominate like Revis' 2009 Campaign.


Now, Stephon Gilmore's 2019 Campaign was pretty good but I would not place it in the same tier. For that matter, I would argue that T.J. Watt had a better season as a pass rusher than Stephon did as a CB.

 

Ok care to explain who is better.

 

I listed my version of top CB’s of all time. I didn’t say top cover corners of all time. Sanders was not a complete player. In addition as good as he was at guarding the perimeter he sucked at giving up the inside slant. In todays NFL where it is all about the pass maybe he would be the greatest CB but in the time period he played in the run was still big part of the game. Rod Woodson in my mind was a better all around CB than Sanders. I certainly would prefer building a team around Woodson than I would Sanders just simply due to the attitude difference. Could you imagine trying to reign in Sanders in todays NFL with all of the self promotion and social media?

 

Deion Sanders
Darrelle Revis
Darrell Green
Mel Blount

 

Wow that’s an intelligent response. No explanation just names. Again I said top CB not Cover CB there is a big difference. Even with that criteria I can understand people are so enamored with Deion Sanders but Darrelle Revise and Darrell Green, really? Come on. You must not have watched the same games that I did. That is ridiculous. I loved Mel Blount as well but he wasn’t as athletic as Rod Woodson was. Its a hard evaluation with Mell and the rest of these guys because the era in which he played and the play style was so vastly different back then. However even after the role change he was still pretty special. I just for me personally I liked Rod better than Mel. It isn’t a slight against Mel.

 

Take that back. Mel could play today. Sorry....He's My all time favorite Steeler.

 

I fail to see why people don't believe he couldn't. People do realize that Mel's best years came after his own rule change in 1977 myself. Of the six All Pro Selections Mel Blount made, four of them came after 1977; 1981 being one of his two First Team All Pro Seasons. For that matter, of Mel Blount's Five Pro Bowls, three of them came after 1977. Whether or not the schematics would change in the subsequent decades after Mel's retirement is irrelevant for he has already showcased such rule changes made no difference in terms of his performance.



Someone like Night Train Lane?! That is a very fair argument as Night Trains style of play would likely cause him to be outlawed in the NFL. Mel Blount?! No way.

 

It is a slight to Blount, and one that shows you don't realize just how dominant of a player he was even after they changed the rules.

Yes, Revis was better than Woodson. The primary job of a cornerback is coverage, and he was better than Woodson in that area. Revis was not a liability against the run, which was an advantage he had on Sanders.

Woodson vs. Green is a tough call. Green was every bit as fast, probably a bit better in man coverage, and could play a physical game despite not being as big. Like Woodson, he was a ball hawk who was dynamic with the ball in his hands.

 

Darrell Green is considered the second fastest NFL player of all time behind Olympic Gold Medal winner Bob Hayes. Hayes ran a 10.05 100 meter while Green ran it in 10.08. The Redskins reported in their 1986 training camp that Green ran a 4.09 forty while Green said that his fastest 40 time was 4.15. This was before the days of the official 40 time but one thing for sure is that Tony Dorsett broke into the clear by 10 yards and Green caught him from behind.

 

Remember when Gabe Rivera caught a receiver from behind

 

I love how you state your opinion as if it is a fact. Its your opinion thats it. Mots pundits would disagree with you on putting any of those guys over Woodson with the exception of Sanders. Like I said Blount was awesome but I just prefer Woodson. Regarding Revis and Green vs Woodson... all you have to do is look at the stats. But I don’t like to just look at the stats as I believe the games, the splash plays, the passes defensed, etc. support my belief that Woodson was better.

 

I knew I was going to rile your feathers with that comment. Its just my opinion. Blount is awesome I just happen to like Woodson a little better. Woodson is probably one of my all time favorites.

 

I write in clear, declarative statements. That does not mean I am presenting opinion as fact.

What does mots pundits mean?

Regarding statistics, which ones are you looking at? Just splash plays? That is biased toward the corner who makes big plays but gets beaten more often, which is how Woodson compares to Revis. Are you using all of Woodson's career statistics? He played the final five seasons of his career at safety. He had 24 of his 71 career interceptions during those seasons. Blount intercepted 52 passes in his career, but those were all at cornerback. Those were also during an era when teams didn't throw nearly as much as they did during Woodson's career.

You just like Woodson better is nice, but it's not a valid argument. I like Woodson better than Revis, Green, or Sanders because he was a Steeler and they were not. I like him better than Blount because I was too young to see most of Blount's career, but I watched pretty much all of Woodson's. None of that means Woodson is better than all of them.

One major factor in Green's favor was longevity. The guy was still a full-time starting cornerback, and a good one, at 39, an played until he was 42. I you want a guy for one game or one season, I'll take Woodson. If you want to compare entire careers, I lean toward Green.

 

Mots was meant to mean most. I think you know that though. Your argument that Blount played in era with less passing could also be weighted in Woodsons favor. Yes they were comparable in interceptions from a CB perspective but there are so many other aspects that goes into it. How many passes did they actually face. How long was each players career at the CB position. How many actual games at CB did each play? How many passes defensed did each have relative to number of passes faced? Did QB’s avoid a CB over another one? There is a lot that goes into it where you can strictly just go based off of stats. I hate that whole longevity aspect when evaluating players. Yes it is of value but it can skew stats as well. Frank Gore at RB is the perfect example of that. Would you condor him one of the greatest RB’s of all time because his stats bear that out. You yourself said if you had one CB in their prime for one game you would take Woodson. That says everything right there. Watching the games, the athleticism, the way guys played and how they impacted their team, without a doubt I pick Woodson hands down. Blount was awesome but he had so much talent around him who knows what kind of impact that had on his career plus he had to compete with that talent from a star perspective, where as Woodson was on great teams as well but not at the level Blount was. Green was the Brett Favre or Frank Gore of his position. Great but the longevity certainly contributed to his stats, etc. Revis isn’t even in the discussion of these other guys at all. He had like 28 interceptions over his career. In a pass happy league. I guess you will say he was so dominant nobody passed his way thats why he didn’t get a lot of interceptions. Hogwash.

 

Green had greatness and longevity. The Gore comparison doesn't even come close to holding up.

I thought this was clear, but apparently not. I meant that if I had a choice of Green or Woodson for one game, I would take Woodson. If I had to choose an entire career, I would lean toward Green over Woodson. The comparison was just Green and Woodson, not all cornerbacks.

Blount was dominant even before the rest of the Steel Curtain came together, and Woodson played on some great defenses, too. What really says everything is that Blount was so dominant that he forced the league to change the rules, yet he was still great after they did so.

Regarding Revis, I am aware that some people are fooled by interceptions when it comes to evaluating cornerbacks. I am not.

 

There you go again, presenting your opinion as fact. Just cause you do so doesn’t mean it is true. You are not going to convince me of your opinion even if you present it as fact. I have my opinion and you have yours. Mine just happens to be right.

 

Deion Sanders was the best cover corner ever. However...

Rod could do much more than just cover a guy. When he was playing, color commentators during the game would call him 'the whole package" as far as playing his position compared to Deion.

One could make an argument that if picking an all-time best team you might choose Rod over Deion.

I personally think Rod contributed to a team winning more so than Deion.

 

Blount is also in the Mugger Hall of Fame. LOL.

 

You need to learn the difference between opinion and fact. Stating something clearly and directly does not make it a fact. If I had written that it was a fact that Green had both greatness and longevity, that would be presenting opinion as fact.

Your opinions aren't even consistent. Statistics matter, but only when you want them to matter. Otherwise, they don't.

I know that in the case of Revis, you are one of those people who don't understand that interceptions aren't a great way to judge cornerbacks. I can't help your lack of understanding of the position and the way you stubbornly cling to your poorly-supported opinions.

 

You have a way of being condescending while trying to prove your point somehow believing by putting others down that makes your opinion more valid. I fully understand your argument that Revis didn’t have the interceptions that others did because nobody threw his way because he locked down the WR so therefore he didn’t have the chance to intercept as many passes as others did. Like I said all along stats matter to an extent but they are not the be all end all. My point in disputing stats was the Frank Gore example which is a completely relevant example because a lot of his stats were the result of his longevity. When you look at Green he was talented and a great CB but you yourself said he was remarkable with his longevity. You even proved my point with the comment that for one game you would take Woodson over Green. That was my whole point in the argument who is the better CB? I didn’t say who had the best career, who had the longest career, who had the best stats or who was the best coverage CB. I said who I thought was the best CB. To me if I am taking one guy for one game I am going to pick the guy that I think is the best at his position. If you think Green is better than Woodson then why in the world would you pick Woodson for one game? It makes no sense to me.

You see how you dispute somebody else without being condescending and telling them they don’t know football or the position or insuating stupidity, etc. with your tone. I did not do that to you here. I presented logic and reason to back up my opinion on this.

 

Are you bored

 

Aren’t we all, why else would be on here?