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Rank Steelers top WR alltime

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelresolve, Jun 1, 2023.

  1. Lizard72

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    I’ll go further and say they might actually have done better with Kordell if they’d have been able to keep the receivers he was familiar with longer.
     
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  2. S.T.D

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    Again it's a 11 game sample, and not 10, 8, 7, or whatever You are trying to push. If I included His rookie year it would be more. Funny 11 game sample is not enough when YOU like someone(Ab), or when You don't want to be wrong, but a 10 game sample is enough when You don't like someone (Mason), and You want to be right. Crazy the Hypocrisy :shrug:
     
  3. Formerscribe

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    I see you are once again resorting to false accusations against me to prop up one of your poorly-constructed arguments. Rudolph may have only played in 10 games going into last season, but that was spread out over a four-year sample size. That is not the same thing as Brown's 10 or 11 games sprinkled among nine seasons (130 games) as a Steeler, most of them as a full-time starter.

    More importantly, you haven't shown us the 11 games. I suspect it is because there really aren't 11 or you know that put in proper context, those 11 games don't actually support your point. Given the false information you posted on this thread already, and your attempt at gaslighting me until I provided links to the actual box scores, I see no reason to take your word for anything. Until you provide the links to those 11 box scores, my only reasonable course is to assume you are once again making things up. Given that, I will continue to go with what I found, which are the 10 games he played as a Steeler without Roethlisberger. As already stated, 10 of those are from his rookie season, when Brown wasn't getting many opportunities no matter who was at quarterback, so they are irrelevant. That is why the only valid games worth considering are the seven I already addressed, three with Vick, two with Batch, and two with Jones.

    Are you going to provide the evidence for your claim, or just continue to try to hide it with more BS?
     
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  4. S.T.D

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    Didn't read....You twist things.....You always have. It's 11 games, and could be more if I counted His rookie Year. Enough said. You have proven My point. No matter how You try twisting the words....97% of wrs are made by their Qbs. Thanks:thumbs_up:
     
  5. Formerscribe

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    I'm not twisting anything. You presented a false statistic. When I corrected you, you doubled down, then tried gaslighting me. You finally gave up on that when I posted the box scores that proved you wrong. Every bit of information I posted in this discussion has been accurate. You? Not so much.

    Post the 11 games or show some integrity by admitting you can't.
     
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  6. S.T.D

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    How are You a teacher, and You can't figure out how to look up what games Ben didn't play, and Ab did ????? :shrug: LoL
     
  7. Formerscribe

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    I can, but I'm not the one making the claim. You are. I'm not the one who already presented factually-incorrect information in this discussion. You are. That means you need to show your work.

    See? I can sound like a teacher. :)

    Seriously, there is an informational disconnect here somewhere. The website I used listed 10 games during which Brown played and Roethlisberger did not during his time as a Steeler. I did check his time with the Patriots and Bucs, and it looks like Brady played in every game that Brown played with those two teams, so I'm not sure how you are getting 11 games and claiming that the total leaves out 2010. My research tells me that your information is wrong, but I'm open to the possibility that the website I used has it wrong. Therefore, the reasonable solution is to show your work. If you are unwilling to do so, it is fair for me to conclude that you didn't actually do the research and you are just making **** up.
     
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  8. S.T.D

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    Didn't read. I'm bored. You just keep saying the same thing over, and over. I could have saved time, and stopped reading four, or five comments ago. :shrug:
     
  9. Formerscribe

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    Actually, I didn't just write the same thing. I included a joke about showing your work.

    Also, I pointed out the logical reason why you should do so. I've done the research. My research shows that he only played 10 games in his career without Roethlisberger or Brady, all with the Steelers, and that includes three games his rookie season. You claim you have research that shows him playing 11 such games in his career, and you further claimed that you didn't include his rookie season in that total. I am certainly open to the possibility that the site where I found my information about his time with the Steelers is wrong, but your previous error proves we can't just take your word for it.

    Therefore, if you refuse to show your work, the only reasonable conclusion is that you can't.
     
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  10. Steelersfan43

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    @S.T.D should take the L and move on...He was so wrong on that
     
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  11. OH Steeler Fan

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    AB is the best and it isn't even close. They use to talk about Julio Jones like he was a God,and he was only putting up 6 touchdowns a year. AB was putting up 15 , 16 a year five years straight. I know that he's crazy, but he should definitely get voted into the HOF.
     
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  12. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    2,5,8,13,10,12,9, and 15 from 2011-2018.
     
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  13. S.T.D

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    What was I wrong about???? He played 11 games without Ben, and Brady, and that's Not even counting His rookie Year....don't believe the :bscow: @Formerscribe@Formerscribe is saying. It's on the dang internet for everyone to see. Go freaking look.
    In those 11 games without Ben, or Brady He had a total of 2 games of 100 yards, and 0.....I say again....ZERO TDS. So what Am I wrong about????:shrug:
    I never once said He wasn't good with Ben , or Brady. I said He was average without them. How is 11 games ,and No tds without them not average, and only 2 games of 100 yards??? Again Qbs make Wrs 97% of the time. Is all I'm getting at. Ab is not the only one. $hit go look.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    You didn't say it was two games over 100 yards in his career without Brady or Roethlisberger. You said it was one. I told you that you were wrong, and you doubled down. I gave you more detail and you tried to gaslight me. You finally backed off when I posted the box scores that proved you wrong.

    My research tells me it is 10 games, all with the Steelers, including three during his rookie season. Including his rookie season is intentionally misleading because Brown played so sparingly that year. He wasn't getting opportunities regardless of who was playing quarterback that year. You implied that you weren't including that season, 2010, but you seem to be keeping that vague or backing off from that entirely as a way to cover up your BS. Given that your information was already proven false once, there is absolutely no reason to trust your information when it conflicts with mine.

    The sample size is too small to be worthwhile. Even if it was 11 games, it would be too small, but I don't think it was that many. If you could have proved my source wrong, you would have done so by now.

    (At this point, I will once again admit that it is possible the site I used got it wrong, but there is no way to compare since STD refuses to share his source.)
     
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  15. M. Connors

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    8. Lee Mays
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  16. forgotten1

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    Yeah Take the L with SD
     
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  17. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    Please, pretty-please, post which 11 games you’re talking about. Even just the seasons and weeks—we can look up the box scores from there.
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    I changed it to two because You were correct it was 2. Unlike You I admit when I'm wrong. I have been on this board a while, and Ive yet to see You say once You were wrong. I say it all the time. Still 2 games of 100 yards, and 0 tds out of 11 game is pretty average.
     
  19. S.T.D

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    Thats a lot of stuff to write ,and copy. It's really simple. Not even counting ABs rookie year...Go look at what games Ben played, and then go back , and look at what games AB played that Ben didn't. You notice He's only refuting one game, and not once has He refuted that Ab had no tds. He says He had 2 games of 100 yards.....He was correct I missed one, but He's missed a game. 11 games without Ben, or Brady, with only 2 games of 100 yards ,and No Tds. I never say Ab sucked. I said without a HOF Qb He was average.....like 97% of Wrs are. With Brady, and Ben .....Ab was outstanding. That's all I was getting at.
     
  20. Formerscribe

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    Funny how your summary of the discussion left out your error. And yes, after trying to ignore my correction and then trying to gaslight me, you finally changed your answer when I posted the box scores. Given your performance there, nobody should take your word for it being 11 games.
     
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  21. S.T.D

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  22. S.T.D

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    Believe what You want it's in black, and white. On the stats. Your kind always does.
     
  23. Formerscribe

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    You don't have to copy anything. Give us dates or years and which week it was. Hell, do that and I'll post the box scores for you.

    Also, there are plenty of receivers who are great without Hall of Fame quarterbacks. This was true in the past with guys like Steve Largent and Art Monk. This is true of today. The three All-Pro receivers in the NFL in 2022 were Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, and Devonte Adams. Do you think Cousins, Tagovailoa, or Carr are going to the Hall of Fame?
     
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  24. Formerscribe

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    Translation: You made it up or you would have posted the dates.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Look it up. You said I'm wrong well You copy all of it....otherwise shut up about it. Your arguing 50 pages over one freaking game. Does is sound better, and make Ab better if You said He only had 2 one hundred yard games, and No TDs out of 10 games instead of 11. GEEZZZZ. It's 11 , and if I counted His rookie season it would be more, but I'm not. So You say I'm wrong You freaking prove I'm wrong for one game. LoL
     

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