New Sheriff in Town

You don’t know that. It’s pure speculation on your part. Have you already forgotten about trading for Minkah?

 

It’s not about me believing what I want. It’s pure speculation by you stated as fact

 

If we end up with Broderick and JPJ, I don’t care how the rest of the draft goes. That’s 2 day 1 starting dawgs.

 

I might have considered moving up to get jalen Carter to be aggressive. If moving up to get Broderick Jones was aggressive then the same can be said about moving up to get Devin bush. DB unfortunately didn't work out and some might say it was more of a desperate move then an aggressive one, but nonetheless.

 

I was shocked to see NE even negotiate with the Steelers trading the pick. I'm happy we got BJ but NE came out smelling like a rose getting an extra pick plus still getting Gonzalez.

 

It's not a new approach. 2001 the Steelers made a trade with the Jets. The Steelers went from 16 to 19 and acquired later round picks from the Jets.

The Steelers traded up to draft Troy. Just a few seasons ago they traded up for Bush.

The Steelers made some later round draft moves over the years.

I agree it's not standard for the Steelers to make those types of moves but it's not a new approach. The Steelers are just selective based on their evaluations of other teams or if a player will fall to them ect.

 

I'd argue that moving up to take Carter would have been kind of depserate, not to mention a slap in Kenny's face. We made the perfect call and can STILL get JPJ and with a little luck JPJ and a third or fourth.

 

Well, this whole offseason has felt different. All these "little" moves have, at least on paper, have made a huge difference overall.

We have to wait and see, but just look at how different this years team will be to last years. It really is a very different team already. And we're not done yet boys.

 

I have been thinking like this for a long time in my General Manager career.

I would always be trying to create attractive packages with picks and sacrificial lamb players on the roster to move up.

Package rounds 5,6,&7 with or without roster depth to move way up in the 4th or even possibly into the 3rd. Package 4 and 3 to move way up in the 3rd or into the second.

I would bet the hit rate would be much better finding quality contributors.

Give me 3-4 swings in higher valuable positions at day 1 and 2 than 6-8 picks in total from all three days. Sitting out day three would be fine. There are probably just as many un-drafted quality players in our history as there are guys picked in rounds 5, 6, and, 7.

It’s not an earth scattering concept and probably been tried by some team with more frequency than others at some point. Then all the other teams rolled their eyes a laughed at said team “I don’t want your crumbs and scraps”.

 

I was watching the draft unfold here, but also in a steeler YT channel with live chat. When Paris went many were complaining that Omar missed his chance, when the other two were taken Omar WTF you doing. So far he has shown shrewdness and professional patience in how he operates. Letting the board come to him, moving up at the right time with very little cost. Now let's see how that 32 pick develops, I have NP staying and picking JPjr, but if you can drop a few spots and get back in the middle rounds, that also is not a bad thing. Interesting to see how draft 'values' weigh against desire for that 32 pick, I do not necessarily expect a haul, but it could bring more than normal.

 

Colbert was a problem for a number of years, but he was like the Pope, you could not say it

 

Screwing NYJ > Helping the Pitt Steelers

 

I think its being diligent in scouting, where your team is, and what you need. There have been times the Steelers have had 10 picks and it seems like many were throwaways, but some years teams get a huge haul in the mid rounds. And I agree with the UDA area, again scouting and building those relationships in advance as the scramble to sign them begins. If a guy is undrafted and sees he has a good chance to succeed, or at least be noticed you have a better chance to secure him.

 

Why wouldn't they. They got the best CB in the draft, and our 4th round pick.

 

No ....I agree with You. We gave them their pick, and a 4th round on top. Not something I like to see.

 

People can’t see the forest from the trees and forget their are two sides to every trade. You might want to trade up or down, but that doesn’t mean you have a trade partner. Nor does it mean what you’re being offered is worth making the trade.

 

I agree that the sum of the moves is a positive, though they still need to add help in the secondary.

All of that said, the primary variable is still Pickett.

 

You may be forgetting that one of the Jets biggest needs is OT. We HAD to jump them to get Jones, who they obviously coveted.

Yes, it sucks that the Patriots got our 4th and the guy they were gonna take anyway. But, it was also a gamble on their part. Washington totally f***ed up and took a straw man at cb instead. He may end up being great, but he scares the hell out of me.

Draft position is everything. Leverage is everything.