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In the first round the Steelers select.. (poll)

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mcam, Apr 8, 2023.

  1. WR

    3.7%
  2. OT/o-line

    35.4%
  3. DT

    6.1%
  4. Edge Rusher/OLB

    1.2%
  5. MLB

    1.2%
  6. Corner

    46.3%
  7. Saftey

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. QB

    2.4%
  9. Kicker

    2.4%
  10. Long snapper

    1.2%
  1. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Van Ness would be the surprise, have read the Eagles love him (smoke screens all over so who knows), but he just looks like a Steeler player...nothing scientific, just appearance lmao
     
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  2. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Offensive Left Tackle! They are short on picks unfortunately so I don't see a trade up. Maybe dangle Dotson out there. I feel they will try to move him somewhere in the draft. I'm warming up to the corner Gonzalez but he would be a trade up for sure.

    Corner can wait till the first 2nd round pick.
     
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  3. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly, I doubt they do it, but what O do you build to offer KP the greatest success? I really like Muth, but you see the success other O's have had using a 2 TE set, and its intriguing. The fact the Steelers have never used that position this way certainly suggests they wont now, but honestly I think any position we 'do not think' is need (exception QB, RB) is pretty much on the table is the right player is there.
     
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  4. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    I voted corner but I would not be surprised if they try to strengthen the defensive line or indeed the offensive line at #17. Once they get the best player on the board they can’t really go wrong.

    Ideally the first three selections are CB, OT and DL in whatever order, depending on how the board falls of course. It’s great to have three picks in the top 50, this really is a critical draft for the team.
     
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  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=38f4...LXNldHMtd2V2ZS1iZWVuLWluLXRoYXQtbW9kZS8&ntb=1

    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=bcdf...S10ZXMtaW4tbWF0dC1jYW5hZGFzLW9mZmVuc2Uv&ntb=1

    i don't think it's not been in their plans and even used and i believe a real possibility. :cool:
     
  6. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Wow, had not scene any of that. Like I said I like Muth, Conner has his value, but not a true TE, Gentry is what he is, but if they are serious about going that route the need is there. CB is the obvious 'need', but really nothing would surprise me. We focus on what we think, their fcous is on what they want to do.
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    as i have said before, if you want one of these first two TE's that can do what they want them to do for the offense, then you need to get them early. i don't think it takes away from the corner group as much because it is really deep. heck two or three could be off the board by the time we pick. so we are getting the 3rd or 4th ranked guy at that time anyway. depends on who's ranking you believe and who the team likes the best of course. there are by far and away very good corners much deeper in this draft then there are top TE's. i'm talking guys that can be as good blocking as they are receiving threats. gentry is signed for one year. if he was there guy they would have invested longer term. mayer or washington would be the best two they could get to make this work.

    i've seen banks and ringo as low as 32-34. there are good ones past that as well. i could see TE, then LB and even wait until 49 for a CB. maybe later at 81. still getting a good one or two in this draft. we don't know what there plans are for trades either so this all could change.:cool:
     
  8. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i don't think this takes away what heyward and muth does at all. it may actually help. :cool:
     
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  9. FootballAnalyst98

    FootballAnalyst98 Well-Known Member

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    You build whatever the bengals did for a "burrow like" jump. So a bad oline but stud wrs. Also a decent run game. So thats how the steelers should be looking to build the offense.
     
  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure he fits the Steelers, he would seem to be more of a 4/3 DE.
     
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  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Run Kenny Run

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    Another Boner eh
     
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  12. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    Whomever causes the greatest consternation amongst theSteelersFans faithful
     
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  13. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    It all depend on who's available ... who falls to us. Broderick or JPJ in the first.
     
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  14. AskQuestionsLater

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    Not just Philly. Green Bay as well. Either team could go with him. That said, do not count out Nolan Smith either. Yes... he is not the typical EDGE size. However, his ability to slip out of tackles with little to no difficulty?!... at that level of agility and explosiveness?!?!....


    Good luck.
     
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  15. oldschool

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    Agreed. Here is a GREAT article in my opinion explaining the conundrum we are in on offense and all the directions that they could go.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2023/04/te-and-wr-prospects-in-the-2023-draft-one-more-weapon-for-kenny/

    Half way down is a section titled “Big Slot Options” in bold. Then below it a bunch of player details who could fill it. *Darnell Washington’s* description is the most interesting and provides the Steelers with the most flexibility. And we know they love and value position flexibility.

    He’s my hopeful pick for #32. I still think they need a no brainer LT, or CB at 17 though.

    Hot Take - They take a MLB at #17.

    Here’s one recent example why - I think historically this organization values LB second only to QB - hence the huge reach and miss with Devin Bush a few years ago that we are smarting over right now. Despite the promise of his rookie season before the ACL, his “attitude” has shown that he wasn’t worthy of the trade up pick.

    My physical darling that year was DK Metcalph (who could probably play as a TE too) that I wanted the Steelers to take just like *Darnell Washington* this year. It isn’t often that human is in such a giant frame and can still function and play like a more normal framed NFL player.

    I think you need to snatch people who have those combined traits and take the chance.
     
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  16. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    The no brainer part has a caveat, how the teams board plays out, who in those positions are there when they pick, and what value and need do they see when they are picking.

    For instance I agree T and CB are the most immediate needs, but with the signing of Seumalo, do they feel Moore's issues can be solved/vastly improved with the seasoned G next to him? If the correct T is there then you have to seriously consider it, not only a better player, but you reset the clock on Cap management for that position. CB I feel is the greater need as we need not only bodies, but someone that can start 'well' immediately, but again I would rather take the BPA, TE, S, Edge etc, than reach for a T or CB if that player is no longer on the steeler board.
     
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  17. mikeyg

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    LET'S GO!

    Back to mauler football - mean, nasty, DOMINANT!!!
     
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  18. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling it plays out that they won’t need to reach for a player they are real happy with and see as “their guy”.

    The consensus on this board seems to be LT or CB but I think that DL is easily considered as desperate a need by the organization or only slightly less. The whole idea being that pass rush affects D-back effectiveness more than the reverse. Plus, if they can land a top-ish tier D-lineman - hopefully they are as strong against the run as well as pass rush where as DB’s don’t provide nearly as much value in run defense.

    But again, I know they covet what the MLB (QB of the D) does to tie-the-room-together and could suprise everyone with a green dot type LB of the future.
     
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  19. mikeyg

    mikeyg Well-Known Member

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    WR would be a waste, IMO. We have not rebuilt the trenches for years (a decade). TIME to get back to basics. enough of the sexy picks.
     
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  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    huh? moore? okrafor? dotson? green? four free agents last year. three this year. 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders, except for herbig. :cool:
     
  21. mikeyg

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    have not drafted high for OL and DL trench guys. We are getting BEAT there by the best teams. We will remain at .500 if this crap continues. the Steelers dominate (this was the recipe for 30 years) when you dominate the LOS's.

    FA is not the answer.

    if a blue chipper LT is there, grab him. Case closed, if I were GM

    I did not want Harris when he was drafted, needed OL. Claypool was a bust, set us back again in the WR department. 2020 draft was a joke. Highsmith is the only name worth talking about, not sure many would miss Dotson.
    2021 also helped create the 'weak' trenches. Love Pat, but again, did not need Najee there. Green sucks, Moore is only avg, maybe below.

    2019 - dare I go on? Bush is / was a BUST. yes, injury MAY have derailed him but I think between the EARS is what derails him. DJ is better than average, but far from great. the rest of the draft - a WASTE.

    we are CHOKING on draft weekends.

    Last year MAY be the turnaround, talk to me after this season. that's how I see it, why we continue to struggle.....
     
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  22. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if I necessarily agree with this part of your post. How many times have you heard the phrase "coverage sack" used? A solid secondary gives the d-line that much more time to get to the QB. All of the TJs in the world can't get to the QB fast enough if your corners are playing 10 yards of the ball, afraid to get burnt.
     
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  23. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Run Kenny Run

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    And a solid d-line makes it so the secondary has to cover for less time and they don’t have to play 10 yards off the ball

    Personally on both sides of the ball it starts front to back
     
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  24. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Not arguing those points. I feel both units are equally important and one has to work extra hard when the other is lacking. I guess it just depends on which unit you feel is in better shape going into the draft.
     
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  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I think there's little chance they take MLB at #17, there aren't any ranked that high or worthy of being the pick at #17, in the second round they might take one though.
     
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