If Pickett can’t play…

Your inability to draw the correct conclusion based on the evidence doesn't make my conclusion wrong. It just means you're not looking at the evidence correctly.

They make decisions on the spot without a longer term plan for anything, and that typically happens where there's a committee who's committed to ass covering.

What was their plan to replace the aging Ben? The fact that they let Ben play as long as he did without any real successor is *bad planning* and ass covering by a committee of decision makers.

-- They were all afraid to tell Ben he's getting old.
-- When they do finally push Ben out, Trub shows up and they say "oh great, lets sign him".
-- Then they go into the draft, Pickett shows up and they say "oh great, lets draft him".
-- Then even before going into preseason, and without any evidence that Trub is any good (but lots of evidence of how Trub sucked at chicago), they hand the reigns over to him.
-- Rudolph outplays all QBs in preseason, and he's not even dressing for real games.
-- Trub stinks the joint so much that Tomlin's gut tells him to put Pickett in at half time.
-- Pickett gets two concussions because the entire O is a giant mess.
-- Trub goes back in and throws 3 interceptions.

Meanwhile, Rudolph, the best QB for THIS season is still not dressing. Lets not even get into drafting a RB last season...

That all smacks of no planning/decision by committee/ass covering to me.

 

Start Mason ive seen enough of pick Trubiski

 

They didn't want Willis. People need to stop with that narrative.

I am uncertain what part of "cheap gamble" escaped you. And no, they were not going to just give up on a season before it started. The last few decades should have made that clear to you.

 

Funny how you claim I'm not reading the evidence right, yet you are flat-out ignoring it. The Steelers have been talking about making decisions by committee since Bill Cowher was coaching. This is not some new thing. It is something they were doing when they won Super Bowls in 2005 and 2008. That alone obliterates your premise.

You also have zero evidence to support your claim that they are making decisions on the spot with no long-term plan. One plan was Rudolph. When they realized that plan wasn't going to work, they chose ride with Roethlisberger as long as they could and look for an opportunity to get a long-term quarterback. Because they realized that Rudolph wasn't working out, they gambled on Trubisky as a stopgap to either to make sure they didn't have to rush a rookie out there or in case they didn't get one they wanted this year. It was a sensible plan. It hasn't worked out great this year, but in no way does that point to a lack of a plan.

This idea that they just signed Trubisky on a whim makes no sense.

The claim that they drafted Pickett on a whim is even more ridiculous.

What they had in preseason was the entire resume of Trubisky versus that of Rudolph. Trubisky's resume was better. Seriously, go look at the numbers. It isn't even close. There is also nothing to back up the idea that Rudolph was the best option for this season. He hasn't shown that in games and, clearly to anybody paying attention, he hadn't been showing it in practice over his years as a Steeler. If he had, they wouldn't have worked so hard to make sure they didn't have to start him this year.

Pickett didn't get hurt yesterday because the entire offense was a mess. One guy blew one blocking assignment. It happens to every team. He really hasn't been taking that much of a beating this season. He has suffered a few big hits, but it's not like he was getting obliterated like what the Bills did to Mike White yesterday.

Your premise makes little sense and you haven't even come close to presenting viable evidence to support it.

 

That was one report from Dulac, who was covering his ass after blowing it in his pre-draft reporting. Before the draft, Dulac reported that there was only one quarterback they would consider in the first round. Then, on draft day, he got it wrong. He reported that it was Willis. After that, he tried to cover his reporting error with this nonsense about three guys with first-round grades.

You know I don't rip reporters without good reason. Dulac deserves a good ripping for the way he tried to misrepresent things after the draft to cover for his poor reporting the morning of the first round.

Also, first-round grade doesn't mean they would actually take the guy in the first round. They claimed Rudolph had a first-round grade after the fact, too.

 

My vote would be for Gentry, Mason brings us NOTHING!

 

Bye

 

What's the point? Play Rudolph and when he $hits the bed you bring in Trubisky and when he $hits the bed you bring in Gentry?

Its over folks. The smidgen of hope went out the window yesterday.

Sit Watt he is struggling out there with a myriad of injuries.

Maybe shut down Pickett.

This team is not going anywhere. Better draft capital is what they need. They need upgrades all over the joint.

 

Really??
I didn't know this.
I learn something everyday. Thanks

 

There is a very long history of beat guys at the P-G having at least some insight on the Steelers' first-round draft pick. Bouchette got it right a few times over the years.

If Dulac had acknowledged his previous report and that he was changing his story, I might buy your theory, but he didn't. That's why I don't respect the way he has reported on the drafting of Pickett since the day it happened.

 

LoL. Happen every day in the NFL. Hell ex NFL players will even talk about it.
Hell I've seen it happen in High school, and college.
All kinds of reasons a player may start over another player....besides being better.
You know this. You are a intelligent man. So don't act like Your not.

 

Yeah Ben didn't play QB in HS until his senior year because the head coach had his own damn kid playing ahead of Ben.

 

High school and college are different animals. Bringing them in makes no sense.

You don't do that with the quarterback position in the NFL, especially over pride. They already swallowed their pride when they gave up on Rudolph, who they had hyped as a potential long-term replacement for Roethlisberger.

 

Winner.
This kind of stuff happens all the time.

 

We will have to agree to disagree.

 

Trust me, I do not post often here anymore but I read the forum just about every day. I have a close contact with Mason. I live in the area where he is from and actually refereed some of his games in High School. He really is a decent guy too and it is not BS. He did autograph a jersey for my family. That put aside, he won't be back. He is mega upset at the situation but is biting his tongue and trying to do the right thing. He wants to play and have an opportunity to start. He knows that is not going to happen in Pittsburgh. He is ready to move on. Besides, no one really likes him in Pittsburgh outside of the locker room so why stick around? He is not appreciated one iota in Pittsburgh so there is no way he is going to again play backup without a chance to start. Pickett is the golden child and will remain that. I know enough about the situation to get myself in trouble so I have to be cautious as to what I say. Just be aware that the organization screwed this guy over in every way imaginable, yet he has taken the high road.

Now, given that, Mitch will probably be on his way too so let's see, the Steelers could very well be without a No 2 and No 3 next spring with a 2nd year guy running the show with no backups. Then again, I am sure the Steelers can find another duck-like body that will gladly ride the bench for a couple of years.

 

Mason had chances in the previous years. He sucks. Doesn’t mean that things were handled correctly because Mitch sucks too and was anointed starter unfairly. Tiny hands is the best of the 3 and he has a 2-1 INT to TD ratio

 

I wish some of my college professors gave out “A’s” as easy as the Steelers gave out first round grades.

 

In high school, yes it does. Do you really think professional teams operate the same way as high schools and colleges? Please tell me you know better.

 

Wow. Maybe you do actually think NFL teams operate the same way as high school teams. Gonna just let that hang out there.

Pardon me while I just back away slowly.

 

I don't doubt that he is a decent guy or that he is upset, but they screwed him? How?

This is the NFL. You want to play, earn it. They saw him every day in practice for three years and he didn't show them enough.

 

I like Mason a lot and he has shown a lot of class throughout this entire ordeal. But having said that, he basically blew it when he did have his opportunities to play. He did nothing that would make anyone believe he was the heir apparent to Ben. I really thought when Ben went down to injury and Mason came in that a new era had begun but it was not to be. Mason showed flashes but was maddeningly inconsistent and didn’t do anything to make you think that he was THE guy going forward. He was replaced by Duck Hodges for crying out loud. I wish him well at his next stop but I think he’s a career backup.

 

Rooting for you, Mason…

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/with-kenny-picketts-status-uncertain-steelers-mason-rudolph-welcomes-possible-chance-to-play/